Short Game 3D—Cast & Coast & Lumbar Spine Mechanics

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And I'm going to try something a little different here for the 3D.

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I've got some screenshots just in case this doesn't work out.

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But we're going to take a look at the cast and coast of the 3D,

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so the kind of the main engine and control center.

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We're going to try it with the actual 3D program.

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So let me switch over here.

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Okay, so I've got a few different swings that we'll look at.

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This is Stan Utley hitting a 30 yard shot.

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So he'll actually allow me to use his name and data.

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So first I'll just let it kind of play over here,

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and then we'll jump through some of the graphs.

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So it may be a little slow with the streaming program

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and the 3D program running.

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They're both kind of graphic intensive.

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So we may end up just looking mostly at the graphs,

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because I know that those will show up fine.

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So yeah, it's running pretty slow.

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But just wanted you to see, hey, that's Stan Utley's motion.

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If you've-- there's lots of YouTube videos

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you can find on him if you want to compare any of these graphs

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to that actual model.

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Okay, so first piece of the short game puzzle

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is the cast, and then the second piece is the coast.

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So in transition, you don't want to see a whole lot

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of downswing loading.

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So as we expand out his kinematic sequence,

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you'll see he actually peaks a little bit more than most.

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But the cast sequence is you can see

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this nice fanning of the curves over here on the left.

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So you can see that basically the club gets going fast early.

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And then the arm is going a little bit faster.

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I'll expand that just a bit, because it's easier to see.

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But oftentimes, the short game is described

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as the club going first.

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Here on 3D, you can clearly see that the body is going first.

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So just in case you can't--

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you haven't looked at these in a little while.

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Red is pelvis, green is thorax, blue is left arm,

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and then brown is club.

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So the lower body and the cord definitely goes first.

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But you'll see the lower body while it goes first.

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It goes very slow.

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So it's the lowest line.

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It's moving at the slowest rotational velocity

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for pretty much the whole downswing.

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But you will see there's kind of a normal transition order.

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What you'll see that's different from the full swing

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is there's no loading.

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If you remember from the first webinar,

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I talked about the power sources and being

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able to see if the lower body was on top of the core,

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then that meant that you were stretching the lower body.

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There's no stretching during the downswing.

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It's all stretched during the backswing,

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and then it's casted during transition.

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So this is the cast pattern that you're looking for.

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If you start to see some load, then you're typically

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going to have a look of kind of some tempo issues.

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Now from a cast perspective--

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or sorry, from a coast perspective,

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this is we're going to spend the bulk of our time,

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and we'll look at some other examples for this as well.

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So for the coast perspective, we're

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looking for these lines to kind of flat line.

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In addition, so you show you some others,

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I like to see very quiet hands through impact as well.

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So part of the reason that I think Stan Utley and James

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Seekman and Sevi talked about kind of casting

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or throwing the club early is so that then you can pretty much

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coast or do very little hand manipulation late.

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So if we look at the lead and the trail risk graphs--

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and we'll look at a couple other graphs--

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but if we look at the lead and the trail risk graphs,

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if I bring it back kind of right around there--

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actually, I'll take it back even further--

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what you'll see through impact is commonly flat lines,

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which is-- or just after impact, I should say.

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So in the follow through, you'll see these flat lines.

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So basically, between here and there,

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there's very little change in the rotation.

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There's very little--

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he has a little bit more lead wrist hinge than some

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or re-hinging, but there's very little change in the wrist

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compared to the full swing.

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In addition to limited change in the wrist,

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if you look at the elbow extension graph,

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especially looking at the right arm--

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so looking at the trail elbow flexion extension.

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So if you remember from this graph,

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when it's going down, it's bending,

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when it's going up, it's straightening,

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you'll see two things of note.

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One, see how that right elbow kind of flat lines.

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What we'll see from a couple amateurs who struggle

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is that they will tend to really straighten that right arm,

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kind of throw that whole right shoulder at it,

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and that right arm will-- the graph will continue going up.

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In addition, you'll see that it flat lines not it straight.

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It flat lines somewhere around with 20 degrees of bend in it.

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So basically, through impact, that right arm

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isn't really straightening.

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In fact, they're both bending soon after impact,

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the left arm and the right arm.

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So that gives a look if we go to some of our favorite graphs.

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If we go to the arc width graph, you'll

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see there's no downswing load.

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You'll see that basically the arc with narrows in the backswing

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and then gets back to about where it was set up at impact,

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and it just kind of flat lines there.

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That's the coasting mechanism that I like to look at.

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And the only way to get that is if the arms are really quiet,

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which is what we're seeing from these wrist and shoulder

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graphs or wrist and elbow graphs, then all the movement

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is happening more from the body.

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And so you will see that there's a fair amount

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of continued rotation.

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There's a fair amount of continued side bend,

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and there's actually some continued spine extension.

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Now, at the same time, the ankle and knee

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is responding so that--

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and I'm getting a little side track

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because I wasn't going to talk too much about the body

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and the positions.

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We'll do that at hopefully another time.

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But since I started going down this road,

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you'll see at follow through here his upper body and lower body,

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the pelvis sway numbers are very much on top of each other.

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In fact, in his case, he's one of the few

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where his upper body gets ahead of his lower body

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at follow through position.

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But he's got 30 degrees of side bend.

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So if I pull up his avatar here, and I spin him around,

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you can see that while he's got some side bend in his trunk

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this way, because of what the ankle and knee have done

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for the pelvis, his upper body is on top of the lower body.

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So I'm using this as an example because I commonly

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hear golf instructors talk about side bend and access

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till synonymously.

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And the short game shows us that those

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are two somewhat independent variables.

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So basically, anytime I'm talking about side bend,

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I'll usually go bottom of my ribs, top of my pelvis.

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So you'll see I'm just marking those two points.

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So I can side bend like this and basically keep these two

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pretty much on top of each other.

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Or I could not side bend, so this is now staying the same.

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I'm just using my ankles and my knees and my hips.

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And I'm creating a fair amount of access till.

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So with the driver with the longer clubs,

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we want to have a fair amount of this access till.

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But in order to basically have good right shoulder mechanics,

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you still need some side bend in the short game.

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So I wanted to use stand-utly as vehicle for showing

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the difference between access tilt and side bend.

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All right, so let's take a look at a couple other pros.

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Grant Wade always lets us share.

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So we'll take a look at his cast and coast.

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Takes a second with this program, but it's a good time.

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I'm popping over to check the chat while all these windows

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are loading up.

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Hey, Ed.

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Welcome.

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All right.

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So if we pull up the graph and we look at cast and coast.

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OK, so now you'll see he doesn't do quite as good a job

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of casting the green line and the blue line.

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He gets a little bit of shoulder load.

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He's kind of more powerful than you would necessarily want to be.

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And that creates a little bit more peak of the lead arm,

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but he does a good job of coasting with the thorax

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and pelvis.

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You can see those two lines kind of really plateauing

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through impact.

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So that part definitely looks like a tour pro.

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If we jump back, if we pull up his wrist, you'll see--

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and I didn't highlight this as much in Stan Atley's.

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You can go back and flip to some of his graphs

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where I have his wrist graphs up.

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But you can see part of the cast is this ulnar deviation.

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And what you'll see, he kind of rehinges quicker than I like,

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but you'll see that the ulnar deviation starts right about here.

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So if I pull him up-- and this is where

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I think the idea of throwing the club to start transition

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comes from is a lot of golfers feel this movement here.

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So right around, let's say, right around there on a 30-yard shot,

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he's now going to start slowly unhinging that left wrist.

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And you saw the club continue to go back.

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So there's this little bit of kind of floating of the wrist

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to unhing it and basically get the radius wider earlier.

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But then you will see on the way through--

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he gets a-- I say here in transition-- he gets

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a little more download of the wrist.

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Again, that's kind of more of this power move that he's doing.

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But he does a good job of kind of casting or keeping

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the shoulder or the right arm pretty bent there,

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left arm bending through impact.

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So he gets some decent coasting.

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Let me get him down-- actually, we'll just jump to impact.

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And you can see why I've kind of resisted

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doing the 3D program live.

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Because when you have all these graphs out here,

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if you're not used to what you're looking at,

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it can get a little overwhelming.

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Now, he gets a little bit more of this axis tilt at impact.

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You can see that that upper body is behind the lower body.

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And so he has less side bend but more axis tilt

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than, say, a stand-out lead, which is probably part

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of the reason why he's not considered, I'd say, elite.

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He's toward level.

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I mean, he hits a lot of really good short game shots.

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I've seen him chip in pitch when he was working with Charles.

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He's very good.

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But he's not at the upper echelon category.

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I think part of it is because he gets a little bit more,

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like, lower body power and kind of gets a little bit more

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of a pull on the handle and transition instead of that cast.

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And so typically, when you've got this much side bend,

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you have to retain a little bit more leg than--

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or sorry, when you have this much axis tilt.

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See, I even made the mistake of using those two interchangeably.

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But he's got the overall pattern.

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I just wanted to use him because if you

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can find a clip of him chipping on YouTube or something

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like that, then you can compare this data to him.

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So I'll bring up two more golfers who

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I consider elite level pitchers.

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But I won't tell you their names.

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So I don't have permission to use them.

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But I don't have permission not to use their data.

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So I don't have explicit instructions

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not to use their data.

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So again, it'll take 20, 30 seconds to see this come up.

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This is one of my favorites as far as wedge play goes.

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I think he's very impressive in person.

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We'll see a really clean, pronounced kind of cast pattern.

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He might get a little bit of loading of the wrist,

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but you'll see that pelvis is just super flat lined

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all the way through.

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Love that cast pattern.

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And the green and the blue, like the torso and the armor

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basically matching speed the whole time.

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So there's very little shoulder load.

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I think that's really helpful.

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Now this-- first time I saw it, I thought the sensor fell off

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because basically, if you're looking at this,

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there's some things that look a little funky.

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But I just want you to notice how flat

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lined that trail wrist ulnar radial deviation is.

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So basically, from their setup, let's do this

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so we can see the numbers.

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So at setup, he's got 35 degrees.

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So he's actually unhinged 5 degrees to the top of the swing.

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Crazy.

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At impact, he's unhinged another 5 degrees.

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And then basically, through here, completely flat lined,

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through here, completely flat lined with the trail wrist.

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That's very little trail arm rotation.

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I think he does.

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He's one of the best of really having almost no movement

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in the wrist on the way through and controlling it

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all with that rotation and side bend.

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And so again, you'll see at this point,

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he's got 35 degrees of side bend, but only two inches

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of axis tilt, which is quite a limited amount.

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And if I take him back to impact,

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you'll see he's only got one inch of axis tilt,

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even though he's got 15 degrees of side bend.

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So I highlight that because I haven't done too many videos

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on that on the site.

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And we'll talk about that more when

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I talk about the pivot and kind of the extension pattern

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and more of the positional stuff.

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But today's main topic is looking at this casting,

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coasting, and the limited trail arm straightening.

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Let's look at one more very elite, probably top 15, top 20

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wedge player in the last five, 10 years, 10 years.

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He's not that young.

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OK, I'll check the chat, see if anybody's

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throwing in some questions.

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Not yet.

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With the holiday this week, I figured, unfortunately,

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we're open on Memorial Day.

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Otherwise, yesterday would have been perfect to do this.

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OK, so he was standing a little bit

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far away from the tripod.

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So you'll see that the blue line is a little squirrely.

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So the kinematic sequence won't be as easy to read,

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but still R8 data.

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So let's check our cast coast.

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So cast, we'll see not a lot of downswing loading.

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You can see these wrist graphs getting--

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you can also see the cast from this arc width graph here,

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where you can see not a lot of downswing loading.

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So the trail wrist is reaching its maximum flexion--

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or sorry, extension there at the top.

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And then it just kind of has a gentle little cast and hold.

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He has a little bit more of the trail wrist radial deviation,

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but then good hold on the way through, pretty limited.

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So a little bit of supination here in transition,

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and then limited in the pronation.

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And same thing here, where he's got pretty good cast

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on the way through, pretty good with holding the extension.

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And it's really hard to just hold these wrist angles still,

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because normally you would have to do that with a lot of tension.

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The way you do that is by making the movement of the arms

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happen more from the body.

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So again, he gets to that--

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he's on the upper end.

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Two inches is kind of my upper limit

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for most of these guys of access to their impact.

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But he does have quite a bit of side bend

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in addition to the rotation.

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So 18 degrees in impact.

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And then if we take him a little bit past.

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So 40 degrees of side bend and only one extra--

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so he'd increase side bend by 20 degrees

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and only increase access tilt by 1 inch.

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So again, one of my main focuses or goals in seeing this

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was just that you can start disconnecting access tilt

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from side bend.

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But the main two things for--

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that can-- the amount of side bend here in the short game

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can just help with using the bounce.

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But as long as there's not a lot of access tilt,

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because access tilt will take away bounce

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and make more leading edge hit.

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And the more that the wrists rotate,

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the more that you'll take away bounce

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and the more that the wrist kind of flip,

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the more you'll change the arc width.

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So they do a good job of keeping the arc width

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by having limited wrist motion on the way through

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and controlling it more with the body.

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So I use the example on the site of the underhand throw.

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I use that a lot with my students

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just to help them feel like everything going through together

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and not a really big kind of whip and snap action

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like in the more like it feels in the full swing.

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OK, let's take a look at a couple amateurs.

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So you can see that this was called Blade.

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So this was a 30-yard shot that was hit pretty much

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in the forehead.

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And that's where-- and this guy was self-proclaimed, you know,

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yippish, flinch, all that fun stuff.

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And I wish I had known more about the short game back

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when I worked with this guy in Colorado.

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I was still kind of getting my feet wet.

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But if we look at the wrist grafts over here first--

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so we'll back our way to it.

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So wrist grafts, you'll see there's

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a fair amount of the blue line rotation.

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He's actually decent with the unhinged.

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And I'll let you kind of see his flinch.

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So it's actually an interesting one.

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So if I take him to impact, he's kind of in that position

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there.

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And you'll see at impact, he's got three inches of side bend--

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or sorry, three inches of access tilt,

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but only eight degrees of side bend.

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So less side bend, he's definitely

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more of a rotational spinner.

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And one of the keys to having the look of everything

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going together is having the side bend

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and rotation grafts kind of mirror each other.

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Because there's a blend of how the body will move

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to help control low point.

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And then you don't have to rely on some of these level changes.

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So anyway, fair amount there.

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And then the big one you'll see where he loses that radius

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is this right here.

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Remember we saw all these guys flat line that trail arm

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with like 20 degrees of bend?

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He's at about the right point there,

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but then on the way through, you'll

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see that right arm really straight.

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And that's a common trait on golfers

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who get kind of flinch or yippish around the greens.

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So he gets it almost totally straight.

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You can see a lot of changes in the bend of the arms

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and the bend of the lead wrist.

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That creates this kind of lengthening of the arc width.

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So he was a little narrow at impact compared to where he set up.

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And then he had to widen it really quickly.

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So this falls more into the category

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of kind of maintaining the radius.

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And maintaining the radius on the way through

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is more of coasting, where I'm hitting it more with the body

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and less with the hands.

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But you kind of have to be in the position

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to be able to do so.

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So because he didn't have as much side bend at impact,

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he actually had more kind of thorax rotation at that point,

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not enough side bend.

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He would lengthen the right arm and drop down the pelvis.

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You can see the blue line there we

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haven't talked too much about, and create

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a whole lot of that axis tilt.

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So not ideal for controlling bounce and low point.

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We'll see this as a common thread.

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I've got another yipper kind of flinch pattern.

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And again, this wasn't the greatest data set.

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I got the question from Ed.

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As we try to understand the correct movements

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of the short game swing, can you help us troubleshoot

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errors that we may see?

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Absolutely.

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For example, pulls or shanks, rather than ball

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flights directly at the pin.

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Yeah, let me do this last yipper and then I'll sidebar

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and talk a little bit about that.

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So big thing to see, here's a second.

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Not every golfer who has kind of chip yips flinch

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has this pattern, but you'll see quite commonly

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a lot of right arm extension through the ball.

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I know that James Rydiard is big in teaching the maintenance

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of that right arm.

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This is one of the first place to kind of look at.

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And you always want to work backward

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as to what that might be creating, right?

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Like, why would they have more of that right arm straightening?

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Again, here's a golfer who doesn't get a lot of side bend,

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gets more of the side bend from the pelvis,

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but kind of has a little buckle move,

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so he doesn't get a ton of access tilt.

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But that changes, that lowers the pelvis

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and brings like blading or sorry, chunking and hitting

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the leading edge into play.

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So he has to straighten that, and this is really

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one of the worst graphs I've had sent to me,

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but you can see that the green line,

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so his torso is really rotating hard.

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He's actually doing like nothing with his arm.

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He's rotating that torso really hard,

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and you'll see there's a pretty good peak of the lower body.

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So he's rotating his pelvis.

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You can see the red line is way up there.

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He's rotating his torso.

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He's not really throwing it early from the arms.

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In fact, this loading, this downswing pattern,

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you'll see that if we look at the lead wrist

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ulnar deviation, you'll see he's increasing it

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and narrowing that arc during the transition.

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So that potentially is gonna create some problems,

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and then there's a lot of lead arm rotation

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through impact, he's okay with kind of maintaining

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that right side or the ulnar deviation of the right wrist,

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but there's a lot of rotational change.

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So he would look on video, like he had the club face

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kind of spinning over, and he'd look like he got

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a lot of kind of pull on the handle and transition

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because of this.

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So now let me jump back to the chats

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'cause he got a little bit.

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All right.

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Okay, so Ed had a couple of questions as far as,

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let me grab a wedge.

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Let me know if you can hear me

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'cause I got a little different mic set up

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than last time.

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All right, so got a wedge.

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As we try to understand the correct movements

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of the short game, can you help us troubleshoot

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some errors that we might see?

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For example, pulls or shanks,

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rather than ball flight directly to the pin.

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With shanks, what I talked about last time

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is that's a low point control issue,

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and it's typically, I'm setting up here.

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Don't have a golf ball, but we've got a little man.

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So I'm setting up here in line with the man,

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and I'm making contact with the ground out here.

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So that's a low point issue either caused

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by weight distribution moving in,

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torso kind of diving down and forward,

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or the right arm straightening too soon.

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Those will be the three most common causes

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I see you with that.

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And we saw from this pattern

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that that right arm straightening too much

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on the way through can be a common cause

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of problems with the short game.

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So that's one of the most common things to go after

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with the shank.

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As far as the pulls go,

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that can come from one of two different movements either.

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If I get the club really low,

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so some golfers will tend to kind of get the hands

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really low on the way through kind of like this.

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And you'll see when they do that,

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the club gets more closed and will pull the,

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it will cause leading edge contact

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so you can get some really diggy contact,

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but it also closes the face so it can cause the pull.

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So you saw both a lot of those guys stand up Lee

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and the last two really focusing on getting

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a good amount of owner deviation.

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That tends to shallow out the club

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and widen the arc.

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So two things that I think are really helpful

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for controlling the low point.

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Also, if there are deep divots or sculling occurring.

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So the first thing I work through,

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the first thing I would work through

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with somebody who's got divots as well as sculling

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is I would be looking at why is the low point back

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and why are they not using the bounce

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if they're taking deep divots.

508
00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:41.240
So I look at club face rotation on the way through

509
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.280
cause that's almost a hundred percent wrist action.

510
00:31:44.280 --> 00:31:47.280
So that means on those graphs,

511
00:31:47.280 --> 00:31:52.280
you would see too much rotation of the club this way

512
00:31:52.280 --> 00:31:57.120
as opposed to I would almost,

513
00:31:57.120 --> 00:31:59.520
often I'll start with get them to impact

514
00:31:59.520 --> 00:32:02.720
and I'll just have them trace five to 10 times

515
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.200
going through where they're not having

516
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:07.640
any movement of the hands.

517
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:11.440
I'll show you a clip or two clips

518
00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:15.200
that I have kind of pulled up and ready.

519
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:30.720
Okay, so here are two clips that I'll use

520
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:33.600
when I'm kind of helping golfers understand

521
00:32:33.600 --> 00:32:36.360
what we're trying to do with the wedge play.

522
00:32:36.360 --> 00:32:41.720
And this one's a longish clip

523
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:45.920
so it's probably gonna freeze on me

524
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.720
but we'll see if I can get it.

525
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:54.820
Okay, testing the graphics card on this computer today.

526
00:32:54.820 --> 00:32:58.760
All right, so here's a good little close up

527
00:32:58.760 --> 00:33:03.480
of Graham McDowell and I think it's helpful

528
00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:07.200
to have some of these kind of in your Rolodex

529
00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.360
to be able to show your students.

530
00:33:09.360 --> 00:33:14.360
So what I show here is I'll bring it to,

531
00:33:14.360 --> 00:33:20.000
good, so I'll bring it to right about there

532
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.480
and then I'll just kind of click through frame,

533
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.400
frame by frame, this clip is gonna run really slow today.

534
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.240
But if I just keep clicking through,

535
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.960
I'll show them when is the club hitting the ground?

536
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.640
And they'll say, wow, it's hitting the ground,

537
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.160
you know, an inch, two inches before impact.

538
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.920
And I'm like, how much face rotation do you see

539
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.160
going on through there?

540
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.040
And now it's coming up off the ground.

541
00:33:46.040 --> 00:33:49.120
So this gets us more or less on the same page

542
00:33:49.120 --> 00:33:52.640
as far as, okay, so we're trying to get the club

543
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.040
to just brush along the ground for, you know,

544
00:33:56.040 --> 00:34:00.480
four inches or so with very little face rotation.

545
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.240
I usually say two to four inches,

546
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:08.520
but the face rotation part is really key to that.

547
00:34:08.520 --> 00:34:11.040
If they're getting really diggy contact

548
00:34:11.040 --> 00:34:15.480
and steep divots, then I'm pretty confident

549
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.480
that you're gonna see more of the face rotation

550
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:20.560
than you want to see.

551
00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:28.040
So, if they, oftentimes they'll use face rotation

552
00:34:28.040 --> 00:34:32.960
if they're swinging too much from the inside

553
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:37.600
or if they're having more of kind of a lifting action

554
00:34:37.600 --> 00:34:40.040
of the club on the way through

555
00:34:40.040 --> 00:34:43.360
as opposed to more of a chopping kind of shoulder action

556
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:44.160
on the way through.

557
00:34:44.160 --> 00:34:48.800
All right, so here's the other one that I'll use.

558
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.760
Let me zoom that one back.

559
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:59.280
So this is Justin Rose who is one of the best wedge players

560
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:03.720
of the last 10 years and I'll show them again, okay?

561
00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:07.800
So there's pretty much where he's making ground contact

562
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:11.480
and there you'll see the club sliding along the ground.

563
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:14.500
It was a little softer or wetter turf.

564
00:35:15.640 --> 00:35:20.640
You can see that by the grass on the shoes possibly,

565
00:35:20.640 --> 00:35:24.480
but I just know what tournament this was from.

566
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:26.560
And so as a result, even though he's hitting it

567
00:35:26.560 --> 00:35:29.160
with the bounce, there's still a little divot taken.

568
00:35:29.160 --> 00:35:31.240
I don't want students to be scared to take a divot,

569
00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:35.880
but I want them to focus on trying to get the club to slide

570
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:40.440
and then have the face rotation happening before impact

571
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.640
and then after follow through if they have any at all.

572
00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:50.640
But I would say that most often,

573
00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:52.360
if they're having low point issues,

574
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.720
they're either not casting it out early enough

575
00:35:55.720 --> 00:35:58.000
or they're not hitting it more with their body.

576
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.600
They're hitting it too much with the hand action

577
00:36:00.600 --> 00:36:03.560
and that hand action is causing radius change

578
00:36:03.560 --> 00:36:07.080
or hand and arm, 'cause I showed you two clear examples

579
00:36:07.080 --> 00:36:10.480
where the right arm straightening is a big contributor.

580
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:13.360
So if they're having too much hand action

581
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:16.240
on the way through straightening the right arm

582
00:36:16.240 --> 00:36:19.200
kind of through impact instead of straight and early

583
00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:21.640
and then just kind of hold it late,

584
00:36:21.640 --> 00:36:23.820
they'll have the low point issues.

585
00:36:23.820 --> 00:36:28.600
And sometimes you'll find that when they don't use their wrists,

586
00:36:28.600 --> 00:36:32.460
they start topping the ball because they're not used to,

587
00:36:32.460 --> 00:36:37.000
they're not using enough side bend

588
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.200
to get the club down to the ground.

589
00:36:39.200 --> 00:36:43.880
They're probably kind of spinning more than they need to

590
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:45.680
and throwing that right arm

591
00:36:45.680 --> 00:36:48.200
to get the club all the way down to the ground.

592
00:36:48.200 --> 00:36:56.240
The reason I wanted to highlight these two pieces

593
00:36:56.240 --> 00:36:57.920
is basically getting back to your point,

594
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.280
like how do I troubleshoot most problems?

595
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:03.280
That's how I troubleshoot most problems

596
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:05.920
is I work on getting the cast early

597
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.400
and then I work on coasting late

598
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:10.600
and usually I do coasting first

599
00:37:10.600 --> 00:37:12.880
and then work on the cast feeling

600
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:14.920
of just kind of either throwing the club

601
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:18.600
or letting it drop, getting that earlier owner deviation,

602
00:37:18.600 --> 00:37:20.800
but the big thing is getting the coasting movement

603
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.440
on the way through without having a big either slide

604
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.440
from the lower body or too much of a spin

605
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.560
from the upper body, but coasting with a blend

606
00:37:31.560 --> 00:37:33.800
of side bend rotation extensions

607
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.600
so there's very little access to it.

608
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:40.400
Okay.

609
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:50.120
So these will be in the power point

610
00:37:50.120 --> 00:37:53.520
that will upload here afterward.

611
00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:55.840
All right, if you have any other questions

612
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.920
about the short game, feel free to post them.

613
00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:01.160
I'm planning to do at least one more webinar

614
00:38:01.160 --> 00:38:02.800
on the short game.

615
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.640
Just gotta organize those thoughts a little bit better.

616
00:38:05.640 --> 00:38:09.000
So if you have any specific questions

617
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.160
about the short game like Ed's there

618
00:38:11.160 --> 00:38:14.200
or if you have any specific swings

619
00:38:14.200 --> 00:38:17.080
that you'd like to look at relating in the short game,

620
00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:19.440
this will be a good month to send those in

621
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:23.120
'cause I'm hoping to build on this again in June.

622
00:38:23.120 --> 00:38:28.120
But now let's get into the lumbar spine.

623
00:38:28.120 --> 00:38:30.800
So last time we did the pelvis,

624
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.640
we're working our way up the chain.

625
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.960
So last time we focused on the SI joint

626
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:40.400
right around here.

627
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:42.800
So where the pelvis and the lumbar spine,

628
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.200
or the lumbar spine meets.

629
00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:47.560
And now we're looking at the lumbar spine

630
00:38:47.560 --> 00:38:50.680
being the last five vertebra,

631
00:38:50.680 --> 00:38:52.760
kind of right down in here.

632
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:54.760
And this is a common area.

633
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:56.120
We're gonna talk a little bit about

634
00:38:56.120 --> 00:38:58.920
the common back pain issues you're gonna have.

635
00:38:59.960 --> 00:39:04.960
There's a lot of kind of cool relationships of muscles

636
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.800
and you can see that there's a lot of little muscles

637
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:08.960
and some really big muscles,

638
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.040
so it can get quite complicated.

639
00:39:12.040 --> 00:39:13.720
We're gonna spend most of the time

640
00:39:13.720 --> 00:39:15.400
talking about the actual spine

641
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.720
and the orientation there,

642
00:39:17.720 --> 00:39:19.320
rather than digging into the muscles,

643
00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:21.720
but we will look at them a little bit more

644
00:39:21.720 --> 00:39:23.800
when we get into some back pain culprits.

645
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.200
Okay.

646
00:39:26.200 --> 00:39:29.120
So first, facet joints.

647
00:39:29.120 --> 00:39:34.040
Facet joints are these joints right here.

648
00:39:34.040 --> 00:39:36.280
Basically, you can see over here

649
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:40.080
how the vertebrae sit on top of each other,

650
00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:43.640
like Lego blocks kind of stuck together.

651
00:39:43.640 --> 00:39:47.720
And let me see if I can, okay.

652
00:39:47.720 --> 00:39:50.400
So the way that the facet joints are oriented

653
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.800
is they go like this.

654
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:54.880
So in the lumbar spine,

655
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.880
you'll see that in this bottom left picture,

656
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:03.840
you'll see that the facet joints are pretty much vertical.

657
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:05.600
In the thoracic vertebrae,

658
00:40:05.600 --> 00:40:07.840
you'll see that they're kind of on an angle like this.

659
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.400
And then in the cervical vertebrae,

660
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.120
you'll see that they're like this.

661
00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:15.360
So they blend kind of gradually like this.

662
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.480
That's gonna influence how movement happens

663
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.640
because they're basically almost like

664
00:40:21.640 --> 00:40:24.000
they're kind of up against each other like this,

665
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.640
so they can slide, slide this way.

666
00:40:26.640 --> 00:40:28.700
But in this case, I can't really have one turn

667
00:40:28.700 --> 00:40:30.160
'cause this is in the way.

668
00:40:30.160 --> 00:40:34.720
So as a basic,

669
00:40:34.720 --> 00:40:38.960
here are the different parts of the vertebra.

670
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.880
So you've got the body,

671
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:44.640
the pedicules connecting the particular facets.

672
00:40:44.640 --> 00:40:46.840
And then you've got the transverse process

673
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.360
and the spinous process.

674
00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:50.560
And they are connected by the lamina.

675
00:40:51.600 --> 00:40:56.440
So some of the keywords that you'll typically hear body,

676
00:40:56.440 --> 00:41:00.160
spinous process is the bone sticking straight out the back.

677
00:41:00.160 --> 00:41:04.080
Transverse process are sticking out to the sides.

678
00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:08.960
And then the lamina groove is basically right here,

679
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.000
which is this little concave place

680
00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:15.760
where the lamina interacts.

681
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.120
Now in between each of those, you'll see this disc.

682
00:41:19.120 --> 00:41:24.120
And the disc acts almost like a little squishy ball

683
00:41:24.120 --> 00:41:27.600
in between these two of the two vertebral bodies.

684
00:41:27.600 --> 00:41:32.160
So it allows for pivoting and sliding and rotating

685
00:41:32.160 --> 00:41:36.360
and all these complicated movements.

686
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:42.840
The disc in the center of it is the nucleus propulsus.

687
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:43.840
Propulsus?

688
00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:45.320
Okay.

689
00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:47.640
So in the center of it is the nucleus

690
00:41:47.640 --> 00:41:50.000
and then around it are all these rings.

691
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.520
And the rings are like radial tires

692
00:41:52.520 --> 00:41:56.040
where they're going in different directions.

693
00:41:56.040 --> 00:42:01.040
And so what that does is basically as the disc moves,

694
00:42:01.040 --> 00:42:04.000
there's always fibers that are kind of resisting

695
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.240
the direction that it's moving or twisting, right?

696
00:42:07.240 --> 00:42:09.960
You can't, if they were always going in one direction,

697
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:11.920
it would be really strong in that direction,

698
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:13.160
but weak in the other.

699
00:42:13.160 --> 00:42:15.600
So they have all these different fibers

700
00:42:15.600 --> 00:42:18.360
to make it strong in most directions.

701
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:22.600
But you will find that typically it's more built

702
00:42:22.600 --> 00:42:26.640
for compression and when you start doing twisting,

703
00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:30.120
that's usually the hardest movement on the discs.

704
00:42:30.120 --> 00:42:34.120
That's part of why when you see in the analytic warm-up video,

705
00:42:34.120 --> 00:42:37.960
I advocate doing translations to get blood flowing

706
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:40.040
and get some water into the discs

707
00:42:40.040 --> 00:42:42.440
and then doing forward backward

708
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.200
and then lastly doing rotation.

709
00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:47.400
One of the worst things you can do is take a cold disc

710
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:49.160
and then just start rotating.

711
00:42:49.160 --> 00:42:54.160
So caution your students from jumping right into rotation

712
00:42:54.160 --> 00:42:55.160
like that.

713
00:42:55.160 --> 00:43:03.160
So here's kind of some images as far as the compressive forces

714
00:43:03.160 --> 00:43:08.320
and what you'll see is the natural movement

715
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.880
when the vertebrae goes backward like this,

716
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.280
it pushes the disc forward, if it slides forward,

717
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.680
it pushes the disc backward.

718
00:43:15.680 --> 00:43:20.080
So the alignment of your joints is very important.

719
00:43:20.080 --> 00:43:22.400
The other piece that's really, really important,

720
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:26.320
and I'll talk to you about it when we get into disc issues

721
00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:28.800
is the hydration of the disc.

722
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:32.200
And the discs are, I forget the exact number,

723
00:43:32.200 --> 00:43:35.320
it's like 90% water, it might even be higher than that.

724
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:39.800
So the problem is you've basically got,

725
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:44.440
you've got like these two tripods sitting on top of each other.

726
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:48.200
These two are the bones and then this one is the disc

727
00:43:48.200 --> 00:43:49.760
in between the two bodies.

728
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:54.760
So ideally, the disc between the two bodies is gonna handle,

729
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:58.840
I think it's somewhere like 84, 86% of the body weight

730
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.800
and then these are going to handle six or seven percent each.

731
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:06.520
Well, if the disc, which is like this,

732
00:44:06.520 --> 00:44:11.040
if the disc is a little bit narrower than it's supposed to be

733
00:44:11.040 --> 00:44:13.520
because the person is dehydrated,

734
00:44:13.520 --> 00:44:15.080
so either first thing in the morning

735
00:44:15.080 --> 00:44:17.400
or if you're not drinking a lot of water,

736
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.400
if the discs are dehydrated,

737
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.640
then the bones are now going to support a greater percent

738
00:44:22.640 --> 00:44:24.480
of the body weight.

739
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:26.200
When the bones are supporting greater percent

740
00:44:26.200 --> 00:44:28.000
of the body weight, there's more friction,

741
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:32.360
there's more potential for calcification

742
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.360
or basically you can get osteoarthritis,

743
00:44:37.680 --> 00:44:41.160
you can have more problems with the disc,

744
00:44:41.160 --> 00:44:44.280
you want to make sure that you're drinking water

745
00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:46.680
and that your clients are drinking water

746
00:44:46.680 --> 00:44:50.000
in order to have a soft, spongy disc.

747
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.000
If they're drinking lots of other things other than water,

748
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.680
then this is going to create spine movement problems.

749
00:44:57.680 --> 00:45:01.080
That's, there's, I've heard enough talks on it

750
00:45:01.080 --> 00:45:03.720
and experienced it myself that it's,

751
00:45:03.720 --> 00:45:05.480
there's no way around it.

752
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:07.840
If you don't drink water,

753
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:11.720
you are setting yourself up to have more back problems.

754
00:45:11.720 --> 00:45:15.320
Okay.

755
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:21.400
Now, because jumping back to the orientation

756
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.480
of the facet joints, there is some automatic rotation,

757
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.200
so when you side bend because the facets

758
00:45:27.200 --> 00:45:29.200
are not perfectly vertical,

759
00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:30.800
they're at a little bit of an angle

760
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.040
and because there's ligaments connecting

761
00:45:33.040 --> 00:45:34.840
that are very tight,

762
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.680
those ligaments pull the vertebra

763
00:45:36.680 --> 00:45:39.160
into a little bit of same side rotation

764
00:45:39.160 --> 00:45:40.600
in the lumbar spine.

765
00:45:40.600 --> 00:45:42.880
So when you side bend to the right,

766
00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.280
the vertebra will do it like this.

767
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:47.880
So when you side bend to the left,

768
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.520
the vertebra will also rotate slightly to the left,

769
00:45:50.520 --> 00:45:51.360
like this.

770
00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:55.040
That again can be a problem

771
00:45:55.040 --> 00:45:59.560
'cause sometimes golfers can develop some scoliosis

772
00:45:59.560 --> 00:46:01.720
where they're locked in a little bit of side bend,

773
00:46:01.720 --> 00:46:03.440
which creates an automatic rotation,

774
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:06.400
which will create a block into either the backswing

775
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:07.840
or the downswing direction.

776
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.080
Okay, since we're talking about the lumbar spine movement,

777
00:46:13.080 --> 00:46:16.440
let's talk about the actual amount of movement

778
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.440
and compare that to total spine movement.

779
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.240
So because of the vertical orientation of the sets,

780
00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:25.960
we have lots of flexion extension in the lumbar spine,

781
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:27.320
60 degrees of flexion,

782
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.400
so almost half of your total body's flexion

783
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.200
comes from the lumbar spine,

784
00:46:31.200 --> 00:46:32.880
but only 20 degrees of extension

785
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:34.880
'cause the body's are pretty big,

786
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:39.240
the axis of extension is a little bit more forward.

787
00:46:39.240 --> 00:46:43.120
So it's only 20 degrees of the total 140 of extension.

788
00:46:43.120 --> 00:46:45.600
Lateral flexion, it's a little less than a third,

789
00:46:45.600 --> 00:46:48.120
but we have a fair amount of lateral movement

790
00:46:48.120 --> 00:46:50.020
in the lumbar spine.

791
00:46:50.020 --> 00:46:56.000
And then rotation is about one degree per vertebra.

792
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:59.060
So very little rotation.

793
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:04.960
One of the easiest ways you can damage your lumbar spine

794
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.920
is by forcing lots of lumbar rotation.

795
00:47:07.920 --> 00:47:12.000
The easiest ways to avoid that you're forcing lumbar rotation

796
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:15.800
is to make sure that you have really flexible hips

797
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.960
and really flexible thoracic spine,

798
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:20.800
which we'll talk about in the next webinar.

799
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.640
Whoops.

800
00:47:22.640 --> 00:47:25.280
So here's kind of just a little model

801
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.200
of the, this is maximum extension, maximum flexion.

802
00:47:30.200 --> 00:47:32.560
So you'll see down here is where it's showing

803
00:47:32.560 --> 00:47:35.440
the numbers for the lumbar spine.

804
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:37.200
Up here is where they're showing the numbers

805
00:47:37.200 --> 00:47:41.280
for the thoracic spine and up here,

806
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.480
they're showing numbers for the cervical spine.

807
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.720
But there's a fair amount of flexion in the lumbar spine

808
00:47:47.720 --> 00:47:49.320
and there's a fair amount of side bend.

809
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.400
Those are the two big ones that we get a lot of

810
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:52.780
in the lower back.

811
00:47:52.780 --> 00:47:56.600
So I've got a zoomed in one on this,

812
00:47:56.600 --> 00:47:58.800
but here's just breaking down.

813
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:03.800
So a little bit of more flexion than extension

814
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:05.520
is from a different source.

815
00:48:05.520 --> 00:48:10.840
And then the reason I liked this here

816
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.840
is it shows, this is a little blurry when I zoomed in,

817
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:15.480
but hopefully you can still read it.

818
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.440
So I had one question about well,

819
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:18.880
what happens as you get older?

820
00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:23.640
So this chart shows what happens to the amount

821
00:48:23.640 --> 00:48:25.200
of movement as you get older.

822
00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:28.440
So you have a ton when you're a kid, into a teenager.

823
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.860
And then it pretty much levels off for most of your life.

824
00:48:31.860 --> 00:48:36.880
And you'll see that actually flexion extension,

825
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.160
you don't lose a ton of it.

826
00:48:39.160 --> 00:48:44.160
You lose a little bit at L3 and a little bit at L1,

827
00:48:44.160 --> 00:48:47.160
but you don't lose a lot of your flexion extension

828
00:48:47.160 --> 00:48:49.240
capabilities just from age.

829
00:48:49.240 --> 00:48:54.840
Okay, the next piece we'll look at is the side bend.

830
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:59.840
So side bend looking at about 20 degrees

831
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:05.600
in the lumbar spine, another 20 in the thoracic spine,

832
00:49:05.600 --> 00:49:09.180
and then 35 or more in the cervical spine.

833
00:49:09.180 --> 00:49:14.240
So 20 to 30 degrees on the upper limit

834
00:49:14.240 --> 00:49:16.600
from this guy's research.

835
00:49:16.600 --> 00:49:19.440
And again, so lots when you're a kid,

836
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.800
and then it kind of levels off,

837
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:27.800
but then you do experience a pretty good significant,

838
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:28.760
I wish you'd say pretty good,

839
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:33.600
but a significant decrease, usually around 65 to 70 years old.

840
00:49:33.600 --> 00:49:37.080
So you will lose your ability to get some

841
00:49:37.080 --> 00:49:40.620
of the lumbar side bending as you get older,

842
00:49:40.620 --> 00:49:44.120
which does make managing your low point

843
00:49:44.120 --> 00:49:45.720
that much more challenging.

844
00:49:45.720 --> 00:49:50.720
So if you don't have good hands and a good release

845
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.240
by the time you're getting to that age,

846
00:49:53.240 --> 00:49:55.440
it's just gonna be a little bit tougher

847
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:58.320
because you're not gonna be able to use your body

848
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.120
for all the shallowing aspects.

849
00:50:00.120 --> 00:50:02.680
So you have to be able to coordinate the shallowing aspects

850
00:50:02.680 --> 00:50:05.200
from the arms and the wrists,

851
00:50:05.200 --> 00:50:08.120
not just the shallowing aspects from the body

852
00:50:08.120 --> 00:50:09.080
as you get older.

853
00:50:09.080 --> 00:50:14.960
Rotation is a little bit harder to look at.

854
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:20.800
So they usually break it down kind of into these rough zones

855
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:25.800
but it's harder to get the number for each

856
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:30.720
because all the like inflection side bend,

857
00:50:30.720 --> 00:50:34.000
you can easily get a like in plain view

858
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.000
and you can see how each one's moving radiographically,

859
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.320
but to get rotation, you would have to look top down

860
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.040
and all the vertebra kind of sit on top of each other.

861
00:50:42.040 --> 00:50:45.200
So from my understanding, it's a little bit tougher.

862
00:50:45.200 --> 00:50:47.240
But because of the orientation of the sets,

863
00:50:47.240 --> 00:50:50.600
you've only got five degrees here of rotation.

864
00:50:50.600 --> 00:50:53.600
35 degrees in the thoracic spine.

865
00:50:53.600 --> 00:50:56.880
So that's quite significant and then 50 degrees in the neck.

866
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.440
So for golf, we want a lot of the rotation happening

867
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.240
in the rib cage and the thoracic spine

868
00:51:02.240 --> 00:51:05.960
and in the hips, not a lot happening in the lumbar spine.

869
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:12.000
Now this is an interesting slide just to get you thinking.

870
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:16.360
You've, I'll expand that just a little bit.

871
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:17.720
Hopefully you can still see.

872
00:51:19.080 --> 00:51:22.920
So the resistance of the spine is equal

873
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:26.440
to the product of the number of curves plus one.

874
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:27.760
What the heck does that mean?

875
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.600
Well, most of you've probably had some experience

876
00:51:30.600 --> 00:51:33.680
where someone, either yourself or a client

877
00:51:33.680 --> 00:51:36.000
has gone, been in a car accident

878
00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.440
and maybe had a straightening of the curve.

879
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:40.720
And you think, oh, well now it's straight.

880
00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:42.360
You know, it's just a different shape.

881
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:46.280
It actually becomes more or less resistant.

882
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:49.320
So it becomes more susceptible to injury

883
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:51.560
and it's not just a little bit.

884
00:51:51.560 --> 00:51:54.480
So if you take a normal curve,

885
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.960
which has a normal spine curve, has three curves

886
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:02.960
and there are about 30 degrees in each curve.

887
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:04.800
If it gets more or less,

888
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.440
you lose some of your resiliency.

889
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:11.560
But if you were to go from a normal curve like this

890
00:52:11.560 --> 00:52:15.800
to then a straight column, the resistance

891
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:20.080
to compressive forces becomes about 10 times less,

892
00:52:20.080 --> 00:52:22.240
not three times less.

893
00:52:22.240 --> 00:52:24.160
In fact, if you just lose one curve,

894
00:52:24.160 --> 00:52:25.520
like let's say you had whiplash

895
00:52:25.520 --> 00:52:27.560
and now your cervical spine is straight,

896
00:52:27.560 --> 00:52:29.200
speaking from experience,

897
00:52:29.200 --> 00:52:33.960
it's about half as resistant as a normal spine.

898
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.080
So it's not like you lost 10%.

899
00:52:36.080 --> 00:52:39.560
You lose a lot if you lose these curves.

900
00:52:39.560 --> 00:52:42.960
And to my understanding or in my experience,

901
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.680
Eldoas and some of these spine exercises

902
00:52:45.680 --> 00:52:48.320
are one of the few ways to kind of really maintain

903
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:51.400
the health of the disc and the health of the curves.

904
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.880
Okay, so as I said,

905
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.080
the main goals here today was looking at the lumbar spine

906
00:52:59.080 --> 00:53:01.680
in terms of the joint movements.

907
00:53:01.680 --> 00:53:05.080
But we are gonna talk a little bit about muscles

908
00:53:05.080 --> 00:53:09.000
'cause we're gonna talk about some of the common pain sources

909
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:11.240
or basically where does lower back pain come from?

910
00:53:11.240 --> 00:53:15.280
So lower back pain comes typically from compression.

911
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:19.840
Now compression can either come from a bone on bone,

912
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:24.040
fisset joints, it can come from disc compression on a nerve

913
00:53:24.040 --> 00:53:26.200
in, you know, if you have a bulging disc

914
00:53:26.200 --> 00:53:28.680
or slip disc or something like that,

915
00:53:28.680 --> 00:53:33.520
or it can come from entrapment between muscles and fascia.

916
00:53:33.520 --> 00:53:35.800
So we'll talk about these are kind of

917
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:40.240
the major sources of pain, the SI joint.

918
00:53:40.240 --> 00:53:43.600
I remember reading one study showing

919
00:53:43.600 --> 00:53:48.600
that about 95% of back pain comes from the SI joint

920
00:53:48.600 --> 00:53:50.720
even if there's other contributing factors.

921
00:53:50.720 --> 00:53:57.240
The discs can cause a tremendous amount of pain,

922
00:53:57.240 --> 00:54:02.600
but they often get blamed for pain

923
00:54:02.600 --> 00:54:04.440
when they're not actually the source.

924
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:08.440
For example, it could be SI joint, it could be a ligament.

925
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:10.600
Those are really painful areas.

926
00:54:10.600 --> 00:54:14.360
And so you have a pain and then you go get an MRI

927
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:15.920
and it shows that there's a disc issue.

928
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:20.680
So you have your disc removed or fusion or whatever,

929
00:54:20.680 --> 00:54:22.680
but then the pain comes back.

930
00:54:22.680 --> 00:54:27.600
So oftentimes it's because these two are quite painful

931
00:54:27.600 --> 00:54:30.200
and the disc is more obvious

932
00:54:30.200 --> 00:54:32.360
when you look at it radiographically.

933
00:54:33.360 --> 00:54:34.720
Muscles can create some entrapment,

934
00:54:34.720 --> 00:54:38.080
especially the QL, the SOAS,

935
00:54:38.080 --> 00:54:42.800
and the obturator internus, but piriformis.

936
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:46.480
Those three can really cause some nerve entrapment

937
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:49.040
and be a common source of pain from compression.

938
00:54:49.040 --> 00:54:52.120
The facet joints, again, I mentioned

939
00:54:52.120 --> 00:54:53.600
if you're not drinking water

940
00:54:53.600 --> 00:54:55.800
or if you don't have healthy,

941
00:54:55.800 --> 00:54:59.440
kind of some of the smaller muscles

942
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.440
like the rheutoras and the multiphidus

943
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:03.800
and things like that that help decompress

944
00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:06.720
a little bit the spine.

945
00:55:06.720 --> 00:55:10.120
If you don't have healthy muscles around the facet joints,

946
00:55:10.120 --> 00:55:12.200
then the facet joints are,

947
00:55:12.200 --> 00:55:15.640
it's just kind of like rubbing two pieces of stone together

948
00:55:15.640 --> 00:55:19.840
or two poker chips, it's probably a better analogy.

949
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:20.880
sciatica is a common one

950
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.600
where you get shooting pain down the legs

951
00:55:23.600 --> 00:55:27.960
and we'll look at that can come from the disc,

952
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.440
that can come from the bone,

953
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.240
that can come from muscles.

954
00:55:32.240 --> 00:55:36.160
The sciatica is a huge nerve going down the leg

955
00:55:36.160 --> 00:55:38.160
and so depending on where it gets pinched,

956
00:55:38.160 --> 00:55:40.080
it can create different pain sources

957
00:55:40.080 --> 00:55:46.200
and it's not always straight from L5S1 or L3L4 or L4L5.

958
00:55:46.200 --> 00:55:51.520
And then organs, your digestive system,

959
00:55:51.520 --> 00:55:52.680
your reproductive system,

960
00:55:52.680 --> 00:55:57.680
they can all send pain signals to parts of your body

961
00:55:58.760 --> 00:56:03.360
and you'll interpret that typically as muscle or joint pain

962
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:07.480
because organs typically don't have pain receptors

963
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.680
within them so they have to have a referral pattern

964
00:56:09.680 --> 00:56:11.680
so that your body is aware of them.

965
00:56:11.680 --> 00:56:15.480
But those ones are a little bit trickier.

966
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:20.280
Okay, so here's the normal degenerative disc pattern

967
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:23.720
and so normal disc, you can see the healthy space,

968
00:56:23.720 --> 00:56:25.520
degenerative disc, it starts to get smaller.

969
00:56:25.520 --> 00:56:27.840
As you can imagine, if this starts to get smaller,

970
00:56:27.840 --> 00:56:30.120
it's not absorbing as much shock

971
00:56:30.120 --> 00:56:32.240
so then the facet joints are doing it.

972
00:56:32.240 --> 00:56:36.280
If you get a weak spot, that nucleus propulsus

973
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.840
can start pushing into this hole.

974
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:41.840
Now this hole is where the nerves come out

975
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:43.240
of the spinal cord.

976
00:56:43.240 --> 00:56:47.440
So when the nerves get pushed on by the disc

977
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.520
or herniated disc so the chemicals get on it,

978
00:56:49.520 --> 00:56:52.840
it's quite painful and so that's where compression

979
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:54.320
on the nerve can come from the disc,

980
00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:56.120
it could come from narrowing of these bones

981
00:56:56.120 --> 00:56:58.520
or it could come from muscles around it.

982
00:56:58.520 --> 00:57:03.720
So from the overhead view, here's a good look

983
00:57:03.720 --> 00:57:06.480
at the nucleus propulsus, kind of working its way

984
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.920
through those fibers and then hitting on a nerve

985
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:11.640
or bulging onto a nerve.

986
00:57:11.640 --> 00:57:13.240
Here's one of the challenging things.

987
00:57:13.240 --> 00:57:18.240
Many people have disc herniations or bulges

988
00:57:18.240 --> 00:57:21.720
that they're unaware 'cause it's not pushing on a nerve.

989
00:57:21.720 --> 00:57:25.960
If the disc bulge is over here or up or over there,

990
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:29.480
no big deal but if it's back and it's pushing on the nerve,

991
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:31.120
it's very painful.

992
00:57:31.120 --> 00:57:36.120
So that's where the hard thing with discs is they're,

993
00:57:36.120 --> 00:57:42.400
they're one of the easier back pain things to treat typically

994
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.240
especially if you catch them early enough

995
00:57:45.240 --> 00:57:47.680
but they're also one of the easiest ways

996
00:57:47.680 --> 00:57:51.560
for physical therapists or orthopedists

997
00:57:51.560 --> 00:57:55.040
to identify a pain pattern is seeing the disc

998
00:57:55.040 --> 00:57:56.840
but it's not always the disc's fault.

999
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:00.680
As in, you could have a disc that's pushing like this

1000
00:58:00.680 --> 00:58:02.560
and not causing a lot of pain

1001
00:58:02.560 --> 00:58:05.560
but you could have a muscle or a ligament around here

1002
00:58:05.560 --> 00:58:08.720
that is irritated or compressing

1003
00:58:08.720 --> 00:58:10.160
and that's creating the pain

1004
00:58:10.160 --> 00:58:12.200
but you'll see it more from the disc.

1005
00:58:12.200 --> 00:58:16.000
So back health is a little tricky.

1006
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.880
I'll summarize it here in a short bit.

1007
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.800
Okay, so that's just another image of the disc

1008
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.440
and then here's where the facet joins

1009
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.080
this is more like spinal stenosis osteoarthritis

1010
00:58:26.080 --> 00:58:29.040
where you have a lot of bone rubbing on bone.

1011
00:58:29.040 --> 00:58:34.040
Again, all the, so in between these are kind of like a cartilage.

1012
00:58:34.040 --> 00:58:39.280
You've got your drawn blank on the term

1013
00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:41.840
but basically you have kind of the gel

1014
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:43.400
that allows those to slide.

1015
00:58:43.400 --> 00:58:47.760
Water lubricates all the joints

1016
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:50.240
as well as creates volume in the disc

1017
00:58:50.240 --> 00:58:54.320
so it creates more space and more slipperiness

1018
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.320
and both of those help.

1019
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:57.920
So drink your water.

1020
00:58:57.920 --> 00:59:01.560
Okay.

1021
00:59:01.560 --> 00:59:04.200
So here's kind of a rough picture

1022
00:59:04.200 --> 00:59:06.680
of some of these nerves coming out

1023
00:59:06.680 --> 00:59:08.200
from that front side.

1024
00:59:08.200 --> 00:59:11.200
All the muscles can entrap them.

1025
00:59:11.200 --> 00:59:12.280
The joints can entrap them.

1026
00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:13.320
The disc can entrap them.

1027
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:15.520
They can all create different kinds of pain.

1028
00:59:15.520 --> 00:59:19.440
Perhaps we'll do another talk just on lower back pain.

1029
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:21.600
One of the most common sources of pain

1030
00:59:21.600 --> 00:59:25.680
is that so as major and it's not on,

1031
00:59:25.680 --> 00:59:27.640
here we go.

1032
00:59:27.640 --> 00:59:31.360
So that so as major is the red one here

1033
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.920
and you'll see it has attachments

1034
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:36.760
onto the discs themselves.

1035
00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:39.120
So if it's tight, it pulls the discs.

1036
00:59:39.120 --> 00:59:42.000
When you pull the disc, you decrease the height.

1037
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:43.320
So that's a problem.

1038
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:47.240
And it attaches onto the transverse process

1039
00:59:47.240 --> 00:59:52.240
and it wraps around your lumbar vein,

1040
00:59:52.240 --> 00:59:56.200
which your vein is one of its jobs

1041
00:59:56.200 --> 00:59:58.040
is to clean the lower back

1042
00:59:58.040 --> 01:00:01.080
from all the debris and dead tissue.

1043
01:00:01.080 --> 01:00:04.320
So if it gets tight, that vein gets entrapped

1044
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:06.680
and then you can go into lower back spasm.

1045
01:00:06.680 --> 01:00:11.680
So as major can be contributed to disc issues

1046
01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:15.880
as well as muscle issues as well as facet issues.

1047
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:17.600
This is one of the big ones

1048
01:00:17.600 --> 01:00:18.440
that you've got to make sure

1049
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:20.160
you know how to stretch properly.

1050
01:00:20.160 --> 01:00:24.080
These ligaments that I showed last time

1051
01:00:24.080 --> 01:00:25.760
can all be quite painful.

1052
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.400
Ligaments, the classic example is a ligament sprain

1053
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:30.440
in your ankle.

1054
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.520
They're quite painful, right?

1055
01:00:32.520 --> 01:00:34.600
If you've ever twisted your ankle,

1056
01:00:34.600 --> 01:00:35.440
you know what it was like?

1057
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:37.000
You got these sharp pains.

1058
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:38.720
That's oftentimes what happens

1059
01:00:38.720 --> 01:00:42.040
when it's more of a ligament issue in your lower back.

1060
01:00:42.040 --> 01:00:44.800
And that can be one of the reasons why the SI joint

1061
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:45.920
is related to pain

1062
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.640
'cause it can put tension through these ligaments

1063
01:00:48.640 --> 01:00:51.120
and almost create like a sprained ankle type feeling

1064
01:00:51.120 --> 01:00:52.160
in your lower back.

1065
01:00:52.160 --> 01:00:57.120
So sciatic nerve,

1066
01:00:57.120 --> 01:01:02.560
mentioned sciatica, it can get compressed

1067
01:01:02.560 --> 01:01:05.600
from pure formus and glutes

1068
01:01:05.600 --> 01:01:08.120
and all these muscles around here,

1069
01:01:08.120 --> 01:01:10.840
or it can get compressed from these ligaments,

1070
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:14.480
or it can get compressed from a disc.

1071
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.360
But it's almost always,

1072
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:19.200
or it's very common whenever someone says they have sciatica,

1073
01:01:19.200 --> 01:01:22.560
they always say, oh, it's coming from L4, L5 or L5, S1,

1074
01:01:22.560 --> 01:01:24.400
but it actually comes out from a,

1075
01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:29.400
it's a big thick nerve that has a lot of exits from the spine,

1076
01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:32.120
and it has a lot of places

1077
01:01:32.120 --> 01:01:34.640
that it can get entrapped down the leg.

1078
01:01:34.640 --> 01:01:37.480
So, pure formus is one of the common ones.

1079
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:40.520
In fact, anatomically, some people's sciatic nerve

1080
01:01:40.520 --> 01:01:43.720
goes through their pure formus, not on the side of it.

1081
01:01:43.720 --> 01:01:45.080
And so as a result,

1082
01:01:45.080 --> 01:01:46.880
if there's any tension in that pure formus,

1083
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:50.280
it's gonna cause some compression of the sciatic nerve.

1084
01:01:50.280 --> 01:01:53.600
So, you gotta know how to stretch your obturator internus,

1085
01:01:53.600 --> 01:01:55.480
you gotta know how to stretch your pure formus,

1086
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:57.200
and you gotta know how to stretch your psoas.

1087
01:01:57.200 --> 01:01:58.160
Those are big ones.

1088
01:01:58.160 --> 01:02:02.360
Now, I did mention that these organs

1089
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:06.000
can create referral patterns into the lower back,

1090
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:09.040
but that's, unfortunately,

1091
01:02:09.040 --> 01:02:14.040
most doctors aren't going to talk about this type of stuff,

1092
01:02:14.040 --> 01:02:18.960
but especially small intestine or colon kidneys,

1093
01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.760
all those things create lower back referral type patterns.

1094
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:26.800
Okay, we'll talk about this in when I do

1095
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:30.880
an actual webinar on the lower back,

1096
01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:35.160
but if you're coaching someone who has lower back pain,

1097
01:02:35.160 --> 01:02:38.080
the two places that you really have to watch the pelvis

1098
01:02:38.080 --> 01:02:40.640
to see what might be causing the problem

1099
01:02:40.640 --> 01:02:43.440
is in transition and during the bracing

1100
01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:44.800
or during the follow through.

1101
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:48.560
Usually, one of those two will reveal

1102
01:02:48.560 --> 01:02:52.000
when they're creating too much lumbar rotation,

1103
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.800
too much lumbar extension with side bend.

1104
01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:57.120
Basically, when the abs aren't on, when the glutes aren't on,

1105
01:02:57.120 --> 01:02:58.920
if they're using the wrong muscle pattern,

1106
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.680
where they're getting that compression.

1107
01:03:01.680 --> 01:03:06.680
So, we'll talk about that another time down the road.

1108
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:08.760
Okay, questions.

1109
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:11.120
If you have any coming in, feel free.

1110
01:03:11.120 --> 01:03:13.160
Otherwise, I'm going to flip over

1111
01:03:13.160 --> 01:03:16.160
and we're gonna look at some of these case studies

1112
01:03:16.160 --> 01:03:17.040
that were submitted.

1113
01:03:17.040 --> 01:03:27.840
All right, so let's jump over to analyzer.

1114
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:31.440
So Ian sent in a student.

1115
01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:35.240
He said he was a 15 handicap.

1116
01:03:35.240 --> 01:03:38.000
He's gotten down to about a 10,

1117
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:39.240
but he asked some questions of just,

1118
01:03:39.240 --> 01:03:42.860
can we take a look at what's going on in transition?

1119
01:03:42.860 --> 01:03:49.880
So, let's take a look and see what's going on in transition.

1120
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:54.480
Yeah, there's definitely some stuff

1121
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:56.960
we can look at there in transition.

1122
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:01.600
At this point, you're not too bad on the release.

1123
01:04:01.600 --> 01:04:03.680
Let's see what happens in the face on.

1124
01:04:05.600 --> 01:04:09.120
I'll do it this way so that I can move them independently.

1125
01:04:09.120 --> 01:04:19.280
Okay.

1126
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:25.120
So, now we've got the face on

1127
01:04:25.120 --> 01:04:27.520
and the down the line independent.

1128
01:04:27.520 --> 01:04:30.800
Okay, let's see what it looks like on the way through.

1129
01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:34.840
That's not too bad as far as not a lot

1130
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:35.960
of re-hinging.

1131
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:42.360
You can see it didn't look like speed-wise,

1132
01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:45.960
effort-wise, it should get to that full of the finish.

1133
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.760
There's a lot of kind of holding

1134
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:50.840
and kind of tension in his arms.

1135
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:53.240
And the biggest thing I see here

1136
01:04:53.240 --> 01:04:55.720
is what's going on with this right arm.

1137
01:04:55.720 --> 01:05:01.080
So, at the top of the swing,

1138
01:05:01.080 --> 01:05:04.040
you can see that right elbow starting to get

1139
01:05:04.040 --> 01:05:07.920
on behind and that right shoulder starting to elevate.

1140
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:11.080
So, I would definitely review the shoulder blade

1141
01:05:11.080 --> 01:05:14.760
shallowing and work on getting the arm

1142
01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:17.280
to be a little bit more in front,

1143
01:05:17.280 --> 01:05:20.720
where it's going to be a bit more of a challenge

1144
01:05:20.720 --> 01:05:22.080
is down here through impact.

1145
01:05:22.080 --> 01:05:26.400
You'll see that the elbow has already gone into,

1146
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.040
or the shoulder has already gone

1147
01:05:28.040 --> 01:05:31.840
into internal rotation a good bit.

1148
01:05:31.840 --> 01:05:35.520
Elbow's pointing behind, elbow pointing in front.

1149
01:05:35.520 --> 01:05:41.120
So, there's a pretty big kind of throw

1150
01:05:41.120 --> 01:05:42.840
from that right shoulder.

1151
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:43.760
And you'll see

1152
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:52.920
right in there, you can see that shoulder starting to get up.

1153
01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:56.840
It doesn't go a ton more up,

1154
01:05:56.840 --> 01:06:00.840
but then it really gets into that internal rotation.

1155
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:02.680
On the way through.

1156
01:06:02.680 --> 01:06:04.240
And typically that internal rotation

1157
01:06:04.240 --> 01:06:08.120
is going to cause a pattern of low point control.

1158
01:06:08.120 --> 01:06:11.080
So, primarily fat thin and then pulls

1159
01:06:11.080 --> 01:06:14.240
as the main mispatterns.

1160
01:06:14.240 --> 01:06:19.240
So, I would probably work on getting into this position

1161
01:06:19.240 --> 01:06:24.480
with the shoulder blade more retracted,

1162
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:27.600
the shoulder in external rotation

1163
01:06:27.600 --> 01:06:28.980
and just see what he felt

1164
01:06:28.980 --> 01:06:31.800
if he felt like there was an uncomfortable amount

1165
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:34.960
of tension in the forearms,

1166
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:37.600
then potentially we would have to,

1167
01:06:37.600 --> 01:06:41.040
the group doesn't look like it should be a big problem.

1168
01:06:41.040 --> 01:06:44.880
And he's at set up,

1169
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.160
he's got a fair amount of rotation.

1170
01:06:47.160 --> 01:06:49.960
So, the fact that he's got the rotation there at set up

1171
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:51.640
means that he's probably capable,

1172
01:06:51.640 --> 01:06:53.880
it's more of just a pattern bit more in

1173
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:56.060
and basically working on more of the wipe

1174
01:06:56.060 --> 01:06:57.640
and connecting that trail arm.

1175
01:06:57.640 --> 01:07:00.880
You've done a pretty good job.

1176
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:03.800
His posture doesn't change a ton.

1177
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:06.240
So, that helps with his center contact.

1178
01:07:06.240 --> 01:07:08.640
The arm extension on the way through is pretty good.

1179
01:07:08.640 --> 01:07:11.160
So, that helps with his consistency.

1180
01:07:11.160 --> 01:07:14.480
But, I think that that right arm's going to limit him

1181
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:17.360
from getting much lower than, say, 8 to 10,

1182
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.640
just because he's going to have too many.

1183
01:07:20.640 --> 01:07:24.840
He's going to struggle with some uneven lies

1184
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:27.800
and he's going to struggle with his low point

1185
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:29.400
and pull consistency.

1186
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:34.880
Okay, so then now, let's see,

1187
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:36.400
let me pull this up real quick.

1188
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:43.520
Okay, so now we've got two more sent in.

1189
01:07:43.520 --> 01:07:47.360
So, we've got Mike.

1190
01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:52.800
Mike is currently a 30 down from 35.

1191
01:07:52.800 --> 01:07:56.000
He's been working on flat shoulder plane,

1192
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:57.320
delivering go, delivery pump.

1193
01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:00.000
So, working on delivery position.

1194
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.320
Let's see what's going on here with Mike.

1195
01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:06.920
So, looks like whatever you've done

1196
01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:08.120
on flat shoulder plane.

1197
01:08:08.120 --> 01:08:10.240
You know, there's a little bit of a lift,

1198
01:08:10.240 --> 01:08:11.840
but it's not really a big,

1199
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:13.760
he doesn't lose that shoulder plane angle too much.

1200
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:16.320
So, I think the lift is more, yep.

1201
01:08:16.320 --> 01:08:18.800
So, the lift will load the chop pattern.

1202
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:22.320
I always use the explanation there of,

1203
01:08:22.320 --> 01:08:25.000
if I told someone to jump,

1204
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:27.600
nobody would lift in the backswing, right?

1205
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:30.280
So, if in his mind, his thought is,

1206
01:08:30.280 --> 01:08:33.240
I need to push against the ground with my legs,

1207
01:08:33.240 --> 01:08:36.120
then it makes no sense to lift.

1208
01:08:36.120 --> 01:08:38.120
But, if my brain is saying,

1209
01:08:38.120 --> 01:08:41.200
I need to pull down with my upper body and my arms,

1210
01:08:41.200 --> 01:08:43.320
then it makes a lot of sense to lift.

1211
01:08:43.320 --> 01:08:46.200
And so, that movement there

1212
01:08:46.200 --> 01:08:49.560
is the reason he still has that residual lift.

1213
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:51.300
Now, that's quite steep.

1214
01:08:51.300 --> 01:08:54.480
And so, then he has to get shallow late,

1215
01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:59.120
and then, so he gets quite steep early,

1216
01:08:59.120 --> 01:09:02.080
shallow late from both the pelvis going this way,

1217
01:09:02.080 --> 01:09:06.360
as well as the late rotation of the forearms.

1218
01:09:06.360 --> 01:09:10.240
Or the, and then that through there,

1219
01:09:10.240 --> 01:09:11.320
let's look at a face on,

1220
01:09:11.320 --> 01:09:13.000
but right now that through there is the piece

1221
01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:16.980
that I'd say I would work on first.

1222
01:09:21.200 --> 01:09:26.200
I might consider trying to get into a little bit,

1223
01:09:26.200 --> 01:09:30.160
flatter left wrist position at the top,

1224
01:09:30.160 --> 01:09:32.200
a little bit more laid off to take away

1225
01:09:32.200 --> 01:09:33.440
some of the tendency to pull.

1226
01:09:33.440 --> 01:09:38.000
But, ultimately, I think I would do that after working

1227
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:41.480
on that movement there.

1228
01:09:41.480 --> 01:09:45.400
So, with a 30, I'm really working on

1229
01:09:45.400 --> 01:09:48.600
how can we get some club face control,

1230
01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:52.480
and how can we get some low point control.

1231
01:09:52.480 --> 01:09:54.880
And so, the big movement there

1232
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.800
of rehinging the club quickly on the way through,

1233
01:09:58.800 --> 01:10:02.280
is going to cause face control and low point control chaos.

1234
01:10:02.280 --> 01:10:05.720
That's, I'm not a big fan of that movement there.

1235
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:10.720
So, I would do a bunch of work on trying to get,

1236
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:18.080
I would, with higher handicap golfers, I tend to,

1237
01:10:18.080 --> 01:10:22.240
so it's funny, I didn't work with a ton of them

1238
01:10:22.240 --> 01:10:24.080
in either Houston or Denver.

1239
01:10:24.080 --> 01:10:27.960
I'm working more and more with them here in California.

1240
01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:32.960
And so, I've gone more into using some training aids

1241
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:35.920
for the higher handicap golfers.

1242
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:40.800
And so, I would probably use something like the Hanger release,

1243
01:10:40.800 --> 01:10:45.480
or the Hanger to help improve that piece there.

1244
01:10:45.480 --> 01:10:46.960
And let me see.

1245
01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:51.160
And then, the other thing I would probably do

1246
01:10:51.160 --> 01:10:54.240
is looking at how it's coming into the ball.

1247
01:10:54.240 --> 01:10:58.120
It's not quite clear.

1248
01:10:58.120 --> 01:11:01.200
I would investigate his right hand pressure,

1249
01:11:01.200 --> 01:11:03.760
and where that index finger is pushing on the club,

1250
01:11:03.760 --> 01:11:07.400
as ways to kind of help.

1251
01:11:07.400 --> 01:11:10.000
'Cause oftentimes, that rehinge quickly is happening

1252
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.160
because they're pushing more on the thumb

1253
01:11:12.160 --> 01:11:16.880
of the right hand, as opposed to the index finger,

1254
01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:19.800
kind of like the alignment stick loading video.

1255
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:22.880
But I would definitely go after follow through.

1256
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:24.280
I think he's gonna have a hard time

1257
01:11:24.280 --> 01:11:27.120
changing that transition until he can get

1258
01:11:27.120 --> 01:11:28.880
a little bit more width in the wrist

1259
01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:33.720
and a little bit more dead hands feeling through there.

1260
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:36.640
So basically, hitting shots where the hands are at this height,

1261
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:38.840
but the club is still there.

1262
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:41.320
That's what I would go after.

1263
01:11:41.320 --> 01:11:43.040
That would force a little bit better.

1264
01:11:43.040 --> 01:11:49.400
Although, it would force more sinking up his pivot

1265
01:11:49.400 --> 01:11:50.960
with his arms.

1266
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:53.800
I actually think his pivot's not that bad

1267
01:11:53.800 --> 01:11:54.640
in terms of position.

1268
01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:59.640
It's just his arms are so far out of position here

1269
01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.760
and then even worse through there.

1270
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:05.520
So, I would go after this position

1271
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:08.640
and then try to get a little bit more laid off at the top,

1272
01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:10.440
and he will probably have a better chance

1273
01:12:10.440 --> 01:12:12.640
of doing the delivery and go and pump

1274
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.040
once he has a better follow through position.

1275
01:12:15.040 --> 01:12:22.520
Okay, so then, last but not least of the video's sent in.

1276
01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:23.920
Let's look at Larry.

1277
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:27.520
Larry's currently a 13 handicap.

1278
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:29.480
TPI screen, he failed 90, 90,

1279
01:12:29.480 --> 01:12:31.520
lat test, lower quarter, deep squat.

1280
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:33.400
So, pretty much everything.

1281
01:12:33.400 --> 01:12:36.280
His tendencies are CPoster, poor backswing,

1282
01:12:36.280 --> 01:12:38.040
turn with arms lifting in the backswing,

1283
01:12:38.040 --> 01:12:40.160
and then hang back on the downswing.

1284
01:12:40.160 --> 01:12:41.360
Due to physical limitations,

1285
01:12:41.360 --> 01:12:43.080
we've worked on the big hip turn in the backswing.

1286
01:12:43.080 --> 01:12:44.200
That's a good idea.

1287
01:12:44.200 --> 01:12:45.400
Brush the grass, good idea.

1288
01:12:45.400 --> 01:12:48.360
Arm extension at three o'clock and full finish.

1289
01:12:48.360 --> 01:12:50.400
Part of his daily plan includes windmills,

1290
01:12:50.400 --> 01:12:52.160
delivering go and delivery pump.

1291
01:12:52.160 --> 01:12:58.280
Okay, so we've got a 13 handicap.

1292
01:12:58.280 --> 01:13:01.320
So, he's got some skills.

1293
01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:12.040
One of my common questions when I'm kind of interviewing

1294
01:13:12.040 --> 01:13:13.040
and figuring out what direction to go

1295
01:13:13.040 --> 01:13:15.040
is I'll talk about, you know,

1296
01:13:15.040 --> 01:13:17.040
I break it into the three skills,

1297
01:13:17.040 --> 01:13:20.040
so is our main goal trying to create speed,

1298
01:13:20.040 --> 01:13:23.040
more consistent contact, or more straight,

1299
01:13:23.040 --> 01:13:26.040
or a straight turn ball flight, better curve control.

1300
01:13:26.040 --> 01:13:29.040
So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to create speed,

1301
01:13:29.040 --> 01:13:30.040
I'm going to be able to do that,

1302
01:13:30.040 --> 01:13:31.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1303
01:13:31.040 --> 01:13:32.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1304
01:13:32.040 --> 01:13:33.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1305
01:13:33.040 --> 01:13:34.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1306
01:13:34.040 --> 01:13:35.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1307
01:13:35.040 --> 01:13:36.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1308
01:13:36.040 --> 01:13:37.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1309
01:13:37.040 --> 01:13:38.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1310
01:13:38.040 --> 01:13:39.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1311
01:13:39.040 --> 01:13:40.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1312
01:13:40.040 --> 01:13:41.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1313
01:13:41.040 --> 01:13:42.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1314
01:13:42.040 --> 01:13:43.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1315
01:13:43.040 --> 01:13:44.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1316
01:13:44.040 --> 01:13:45.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1317
01:13:45.040 --> 01:13:46.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1318
01:13:46.040 --> 01:13:47.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1319
01:13:47.040 --> 01:13:48.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1320
01:13:48.040 --> 01:13:49.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1321
01:13:49.040 --> 01:13:50.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1322
01:13:50.040 --> 01:13:51.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1323
01:13:51.040 --> 01:13:52.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1324
01:13:52.040 --> 01:13:53.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1325
01:13:53.040 --> 01:13:54.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1326
01:13:54.040 --> 01:13:55.040
I'm going to be able to do that.

1327
01:13:55.040 --> 01:14:05.040
It's more helpful when the suggestion is relevant to the main mispattern.

1328
01:14:05.040 --> 01:14:12.500
I'm going to guess, based on looking at the swing, that he gets a little bit

1329
01:14:12.500 --> 01:14:14.040
more pulls

1330
01:14:14.040 --> 01:14:15.040
than he likes.

1331
01:14:15.040 --> 01:14:21.040
I'm going to guess that he picks the ball and doesn't take any divot.

1332
01:14:21.040 --> 01:14:32.370
I would probably be working on that right there, trying to get a little bit

1333
01:14:32.370 --> 01:14:36.040
better hands forward.

1334
01:14:36.040 --> 01:14:40.040
I'd be working on impact and release.

1335
01:14:40.040 --> 01:14:49.040
I'd be working on trying to get the hands to be more ahead at that point.

1336
01:14:49.040 --> 01:14:55.630
I'd be working on some wipe training and a little bit of body sequence or thor

1337
01:14:55.630 --> 01:14:57.040
ax rotation.

1338
01:14:57.040 --> 01:15:01.040
I would probably start with the impact bag drill.

1339
01:15:01.040 --> 01:15:05.430
Putting the impact bag right about there and trying to get him to feel like

1340
01:15:05.430 --> 01:15:06.040
when he made

1341
01:15:06.040 --> 01:15:10.040
contact with the impact bag, his hands were out in front.

1342
01:15:10.040 --> 01:15:15.040
The drill is brushed the ground, hit the impact bag.

1343
01:15:15.040 --> 01:15:19.670
Then he has to feel, he would tell me that he feels like his shoulder has to

1344
01:15:19.670 --> 01:15:20.040
stay more

1345
01:15:20.040 --> 01:15:24.040
down in order to hit the grass there and get into that position.

1346
01:15:24.040 --> 01:15:30.130
That would train a little bit better sequence of the wrist and a much better

1347
01:15:30.130 --> 01:15:31.040
impact for

1348
01:15:31.040 --> 01:15:37.040
body position through impact.

1349
01:15:37.040 --> 01:15:41.040
That's probably where I would start.

1350
01:15:41.040 --> 01:15:46.710
I've got a lot of really good pieces, especially when you consider what you

1351
01:15:46.710 --> 01:15:48.040
were describing

1352
01:15:48.040 --> 01:15:56.040
with his TPI test.

1353
01:15:56.040 --> 01:16:03.040
I think that his concept of where impact needs to be is a bit off.

1354
01:16:03.040 --> 01:16:06.650
One other thing in addition to the impact drill, what I would usually do is I

1355
01:16:06.650 --> 01:16:07.040
would trade

1356
01:16:07.040 --> 01:16:10.040
places, I would go in here and I'd get into a good impact position.

1357
01:16:10.040 --> 01:16:11.040
I'd say does that look good?

1358
01:16:11.040 --> 01:16:12.040
He'd say yes.

1359
01:16:12.040 --> 01:16:16.040
Then I would freeze the club so it would be at an angle like this.

1360
01:16:16.040 --> 01:16:22.420
I'd freeze the club and I'd have him come in and take a normal stance but not

1361
01:16:22.420 --> 01:16:23.040
touch the

1362
01:16:23.040 --> 01:16:24.040
club.

1363
01:16:24.040 --> 01:16:27.590
He would have to visually look down and I'd say that's where you just said it

1364
01:16:27.590 --> 01:16:28.040
looks normal.

1365
01:16:28.040 --> 01:16:32.750
That would help him overcome the barrier of where visually we're trying to get

1366
01:16:32.750 --> 01:16:33.040
the club

1367
01:16:33.040 --> 01:16:37.040
at impact, which would then line up with the impact bag drill.

1368
01:16:37.040 --> 01:16:40.540
I've had good success with this handicap level and the impact bag drill of

1369
01:16:40.540 --> 01:16:42.040
getting more

1370
01:16:42.040 --> 01:16:45.040
shaft lean, so that's probably where I would start.