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Ending the swing. From follow-through position until the end of the motion.
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All right, coaches, here we go with the last installment of the position
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program, looking
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at P10.
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This is the finished position.
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So we are going to keep it in the context of arms versus body, bracing versus
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coasting
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and a little bit of revealing the path and things like that.
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But this is really an extension of looking at P8, but it can give us some
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details that
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we might not just see from looking at P8.
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So just keeping in context, the simple movement guide, we'll do our last little
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recap of this.
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So what's moving, what's not, whenever you're looking at movement, you can kind
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of think
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about the muscles in the fascia and you can think about what part is moving.
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In order to move, you have to have some anchor.
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So some of the common fixed points or anchors are going to be the main joint.
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So the foot, the knee connect as an anchor, the pelvis, the hip, the ribs are a
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common
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one, the shoulder, the elbows and the wrist can actually get locked in place
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and be a
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fixed point.
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So always think relationships versus just absolutes.
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So local versus global, what's happening for one area might be a compensation
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for something
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nearby.
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So common areas to look at are the hips and the feet working together, the hips
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and the
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shoulders working together, the rib cage working with either the hips or the
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shoulders, the
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shoulders and the wrists, I already said that.
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So those are kind of some of the big relationships, but it's helpful to think
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about how one part
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of the body is influencing another.
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And out versus outside in, each joint has stabilizers as well as movers.
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So if we think about the first goal is to get the joint kind of centered or
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stabilized,
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then the big movers can act more forcefully.
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If the joint is sloppy, you'll typically not be able to recruit as many motor
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units and
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you won't be able to get as much out of the movers.
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Superarms is not so much related to this, although one key thing is a lot of
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golfers
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will pull their arms in closer as they get to the finish position to kind of
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take some
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of the load off of their body.
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That's commonly, we'll talk about it a little bit later, but that's commonly
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kind of a bracing
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and using more of the shoulders versus using more of the core.
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So we'll get little glimpses at the finish position as far as what they were
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thinking
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about both the path and the face, or sorry, path and how they create speed, but
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not much
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with the face control.
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That's kind of over at P8.
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What gets loaded gets unloaded.
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So this is a great place to look at, well, what is this golfer doing to end the
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movement?
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You can see what they like to move and what they don't like to move.
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That might help you influence what's going on down in the more important phases
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.
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Same thing with working the pattern backwards.
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If you look at what's moving into the finish, you can figure out what they
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might be avoiding
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or what their preferences are.
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And then, of course, pushing the car analogy, that's what we want to use, the
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big guys to
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absorb force.
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So we should be seeing some of the big guys moving here in the finish.
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So all of them get involved in this.
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All right.
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So just a quick recap, we've got P1 through 4, which is the backswing.
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Main goals, if you've got all the individual power points, you can see the
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details, but
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main goals are shifting pressure and kind of loading up while maintaining a
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center or
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centered pivot in some sense.
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So not much vertical lateral movement.
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And then organizing the face and path so that we're in position to organize the
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path in
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the face during that first phase of the downswing.
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So first phase of the downswing, we've got P5 through 10 here.
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So early part of the downswing, we're trying to apply max pressure into that
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lead foot
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while maintaining lag or increasing some of the wrist and shoulder stretch
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during that
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downswing.
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So we're going to lead that movement more from the core, we're trying to
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already start
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organizing the face so that by this shaft parallel checkpoint, we've got our
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body creating
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a lot of the speed, but the club and arms are in a good position where we can
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then get
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some shaft lean and good compression at impact.
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As we release through to this finish position, we've got the bracing going on
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maintaining
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the spine angle, centerness of our hub or centerness of our pivot.
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And then as we look in this follow through, we can kind of see the main like
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the after
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effects of where we're using our body, where we're using our arms, what was our
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swing direction,
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we'll get some cues there.
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So there's our quick recap of the release or repeat the last video that we shot
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.
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So stable pelvis slide, arms extending through impact to create this flat spot,
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more extended
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trail wrist or flex lead wrist at impact than it set up.
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So if they were really strong, they might work more towards the neutral.
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If they were really weak, they'll have an exaggerated position.
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But getting the wrist more in that movement there helps with squaring the club
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face and
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creating shaft lean given body driven pivot.
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The dominant normal force down at impact is pretty much unavoidable.
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The key is to get it happening more from body rotation pulling on the club
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versus just
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the arms pulling on the club.
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The shaft lean and looking at the impact line.
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So with the irons, shoulder, hip, shaft, hand, kind of all in line just after
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impact with
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the driver, it's more of the hip and shaft that helps with controlling dynamic
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loft and
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getting maximum compression, transferring energy to the golf ball.
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For consistency, we want and for playability, we want our steeps and shallows
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to match our
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ball flight goals.
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So a little bit inside out for a draw, a little bit outside in for fade, but
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having a good
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low point and depth control so that we have this nice gentle gradual bottom of
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the swing,
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that's the flat spot that tends to give us consistency.
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Okay, when we decode the release, we kind of look at scoop versus tour.
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So in the scoop release, you will typically see the trail wrist going towards
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flexion
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or rehinging or the arm going into excessive internal rotation.
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The lead wrist, you'll tend to see going towards extension, rehinging or ret
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raction of the shoulder
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blade and usually with no supination, so it'll tend to look more like that.
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With the trail hand, we can get into, are they pushing more with the thumb on
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the club or
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are they pushing more with that first finger or the first pressure point of
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this right index
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finger through the release, you want to see the elbows getting closer together
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versus
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getting wider or further apart.
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Typically when they get further apart, you'll see very limited supination when
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they're
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going together, getting closer together, it's easier for that lead forearm to
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supinate.
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From the body's perspective, we will tend to see with more the scoop, you'll
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tend to see
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a little bit of kind of a buckle in that lead leg, that's when I'm really kind
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of anchoring
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in the knee and the quad, it's a sign of getting more of my speed from my arms
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and you'll, or
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if I'm doing a lot with my arms, you will tend to see not a lot of body
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rotation.
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Part of that is because the pec and the lat tend to have or have facial
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attachments onto
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the pelvis, so the pec right here, the lat back here, but both of those are
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going to not
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be as strong in this position as they would be in this position, so when you
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start firing
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your arms, you're going to line things up so that it can fire and work more
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effectively.
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And then you got the geometric aspect, which is as I stand up, this is going to
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straighten.
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So as this arm straightens, I need to create more distance, otherwise I would
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hit the ground.
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So it does help control low point, it does help close the face, it helps go
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normal, but
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it creates this narrow bottom of the swing and typically has a faster club face
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closing,
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which doesn't work as well for consistency.
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Okay, so as a reminder, P8, one of my favorite positions to analyze, you see a
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lot of what's
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going on here, how well they're using the body, the core, how well they're
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doing ulnar
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deviation, how well they're doing supination, this gives you a really good path
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checkpoint,
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club face checkpoint.
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If you have the club face in view, I don't in these two videos, or these two
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pictures,
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you can see the spine angle, so how well they mained centered pivot, you can
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see remnants
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of the impact line, so what kind of axis tilt and body location they had at
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impact.
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This is one of my, one of the more telling positions, so you want to get really
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good
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at looking at it.
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But sometimes things will show up as we approach more of the finish position.
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So as we go to P10, that's kind of the end of the swing, we're going to scan a
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number
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of different things.
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You've got the lead hip to foot relationship.
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So if I had a vertical line right here, you can see that the hip is just
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slightly behind
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the foot, as opposed to directly on top of the middle of the foot.
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You can look at trail hip buckle.
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So how well has this hip stayed up?
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Basically, if I get into this position here, if I drop like this, that's called
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a trendelenburg,
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if you're looking at gate analysis, where basically I'm not using the glute med
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ius on
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the side to control the level of the pelvis, and I'm kind of like sinking
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totally into
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the hip capsule.
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I'm kind of going until I get on stretch of the capsule instead of using the
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muscle.
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That can be a sign if I did that early, that's going to create some really big
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low point
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issues.
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All right, so we got slight spine angle, so still slightly tilted.
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We're making sure that the shoulders haven't really shrugged, that the arms are
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staying
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out in front of the chest.
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We'll see that from the face on view.
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But one of the other good ones to look at here is that lead arm to shoulder
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height.
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So as I get into this finish position, especially from that down the line view,
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you can look
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at looking for about a right angle in that lead arm.
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Some people will finish way down here, and others will finish way up here.
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So you'll kind of see these two kind of like that or like that.
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But if those arms stay in front and the body is rotating it through, then this
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will tend
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to form more of that right angle.
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Also you'll see the shaft position compared to the head.
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So if it's gone like way up, it'll be more vertical.
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That's usually a sign of an overly into out path, or some too much body
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extension on the
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way through, and then coming around more like this, that would be typically
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more of kind
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of a lead shoulder pull or retraction.
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Often times that's going to create more of an outside in path down at the
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bottom or a
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little bit more steep.
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So that's where we're looking at this shaft to head/spinangle relationship.
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From this face on view, we can see the get full body rotation, especially
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looking at the
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hip to belt buckle.
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Are they internally rotating that lead hip, externally rotating that trail hip.
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Lead foot turnout, so we can see where the weight is on that foot.
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We can also see the body position compared to the feet, I don't know if that
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listed there,
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but if your hips are more in the center of your stance, that can be an
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indication of maybe
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poor lower body mechanics or needing poor lower body mechanics to match a club
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face
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problem.
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This is where elbows in front of the chest.
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So basically as I get to that finish position, there should be still some good
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shoulder blade
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integrity.
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I don't want to have those arms kind of pulling in a lot, and I don't want
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those shoulders
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pulling up a lot.
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So if those arms stay out in front, which is good, sorry to say, interior
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activation,
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then I'm going to continue to get my rib cage to move around a whole lot more.
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That tends to create some of this smoothness or width down at the bottom.
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Then lastly, you've got the extension of the hips and spine.
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So you can scan, are they getting into some extension?
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And if they are, is it happening uniformly throughout the spine and hips, or is
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it just
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happening at one part?
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So you'll see I'm not quite as extended through my upper thoracic, it's getting
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better.
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But that's one of my physical restrictions.
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And in this particular swing, maybe not quite as extended through the hip as we
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might want
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to see, but overall not too bad.
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Okay.
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So quick summary of that, you've got basically looking at your hips, your core,
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your shoulders
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and your feet, hips, looking at pelvis rotation from the face on, and extension
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from the
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face on, from the core, kind of looking through the spine for a fluid curve,
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with side bend
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from the down the line and extension from the face on.
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And then the shoulders looking at minimal shrugging, not too much, pull one way
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or the
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other, although it's kind of still in front of the chest.
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Foot and ankle, that'll give you a little insight into is the rotation
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happening more
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from the knee and ankle, or is it happening more from the foot.
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Okay.
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So now let's dive into some of these favorite swings we've been analyzing here.
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So we got Alan first.
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If we just take a look at these two images, we can see that there's a lot we
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can learn
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from this follow through that we might not have seen from just looking at the,
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or sorry,
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the finish compared to the follow through.
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So we can see by comparing the follow through the finish, the hips didn't quite
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get around,
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more of the extension is happening in the lower back, still quite rounded there
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in the
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upper back, shoulders are a little bit shrugged.
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And you know, he's kind of on the very outside of the middle of the foot, right
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?
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Okay, so if we take a quick look at that, so again, on the way through, we can
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see if
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we kind of scrub back and forth through there, there's a kind of lack of
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extension of that
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trail hip.
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So we'll see the ankle kind of come up in the leg, not necessarily straight
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ening the
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trail leg, not necessarily straightening.
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Now we'll see why he's getting onto the outside of that foot, he's not getting
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a whole lot
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of extension from that hip either.
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So potentially getting a little bit more hip tuck or bracing coming from the gl
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utes would
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help clean up what's happening in both the knees and the ankle.
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Secondly, if we go through, we can see that right shoulder kind of really
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reaching with
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the club.
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He keeps the elbows kind of in front of his chest pretty good, but he does have
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more of
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a shrug if we were able to see from the down the line, we probably see that
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space pretty
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closed off and we probably wouldn't see a really good maintenance of his spine
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angle.
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But you can see that there are definitely, okay, just as a general looks like
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he's kind
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of avoiding his hips, so we see some excessive compensations at the ankles and
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the shoulders.
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So that might be something we'd investigate on the lessensee.
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Alright, so Mr. Happy Feet looking at the finish, we can see not a whole lot of
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maintenance
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of the spine angle, very vertical, the trail hip, or sorry, the lead hip to
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foot.
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You can see it's pretty much on top of instead of still in that angle.
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Something going on in that foot we'll look at because there's no extension of
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that ankle.
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And then shoulders, especially this right shoulder is up a little bit, but
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overall not
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too bad, okay, so dynamically, we can see there's just kind of an early
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extension pattern.
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Right, so there's a fair amount of vertical movement, but then on the way
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through that
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vertical movement kind of stops right about here and then it just goes into
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rotation,
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which is where we see that foot coming more off the ground.
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The brace or the ending of that arm extension there isn't happening as much
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from the obliques
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in the core, so much as it is just kind of pulling those arms across the body.
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Now he does a pretty good job of maintaining the shoulder position, so there's
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not like
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a really big collapse or shrugging.
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Let's see what's happening from that face on.
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So again, this is where we see kind of, okay, everything is spinning, that
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could be just
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the foot looks a little odd, there could be a restriction like an artificial
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right hip
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or something like that, preventing the external rotation so the knee has to go
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with the hip,
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and so that's why we see that foot going.
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As he gets into a finished position other than the early extension and kind of
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the overuse
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of the arms, there's nothing kind of glaring at that position.
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He's probably pretty consistent, but probably complains about some limitations,
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especially
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distance.
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Not an awful move.
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Okay, so if we're looking at the overturner in the garage, again scanning,
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first thing
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that jumps out, it could be because the shirt will look at dynamically, you can
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see there's
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not really an extension of those hips, right?
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The pelvis is still tipped forward, the hip is still in slight flexion, ankles
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kind of
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look okay, not a lot of knee extension, that makes sense with the hips, pretty
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good spine
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extension and shoulders don't look like they're in too much of a problem, you
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know, that
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elbow to spine angle looks pretty good there, let's see what it looks like
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dynamically.
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Alright, so now let's do face on first.
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Okay, so we go through to that follow through position, and there's where the
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hip should
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continue extending, but we can see no extension from that hip, all the
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extension is happening
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more excessively here at the knees and then getting some up in that spine.
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Again, you know, not a drastic or dramatic finish issue, I think most of his is
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down
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here in the release, if we look from here, he does a pretty good job of
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maintaining that
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angle of the hip compared to the foot, maintain some spine angle, shoulders
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aren't too bad,
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maybe a little shrug of that left shoulder, like left shoulder is not quite
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working around
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the body at that point, staying in protraction maybe a bit too long, but the
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big thing is
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that excessive movement of the knees moving, compensating for the hip action,
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and then
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the lack of hip extension there in the follow through.
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Okay, so looking at this follow through position, like going on there, we can
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see the weight
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distribution, right, she's very centered, trail foot is still flat, so that's
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why we're
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not getting full pelvis rotation, we can see arms aren't, didn't stay in front,
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there's
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not a whole lot of width there, in fact, I don't even know if I can get my arm
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into
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that flexible finish position, so it looks like a lot of the speed was absorbed
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up in
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the shoulder girdle, with a little bit of rotation, definitely not a lot of
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vertical
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stuff happening, all right, so first we'll look at this face on, so we can see
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starting
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kind of right in here, that body is done and all that speed gets absorbed from
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the arms,
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so that's definitely, you know, there's not a lot of hip action going on, the
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hips stay
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in a little bit of flexion, and definitely we don't get the extension through
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the legs,
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so that kind of fits the puzzle, now this is the one where she's kind of
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pulling those
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arms in to decrease the lever arm, because if she kept her arms out wide, she
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would have
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to use like the bigger muscles to absorb the speed, instead of if she pulls it
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in close
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that decreases, you know, the effort required from the body to move the club,
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she can do
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it much easier, you can move it just with your arms when it's in close a whole
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lot easier
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than when it's out there, when it's out there you're going to want to use the
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bigger muscles,
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so what do we see from the down the line, probably, so we're going to see that
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arms staying very
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low, right, so that's a classic sign of the arm retraction kind of whipping the
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club around,
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so potentially that's a lead arm pull, just as much as it is a trail arm throw,
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when you
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see that lead shoulder kind of really pulling around like that, that'd be
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something to
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investigate, and it's just another view of what we see with not a whole lot of
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hitting
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it with the hip, so some sort of triangle 9 to 3 would probably work pretty
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well in this
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case, just to kind of get the sense of where we want the pelvis to finish and
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how we want
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it to work through the hitting area, okay, so not a bad look and follow through
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, not a
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lot of shrugging, definitely lacking some spine extension, especially in the
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upper thoracic,
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that's kind of common, and we can see kind of lacking some of the mid thoracic
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right
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bend, it's getting maybe a little bit of sag of that right hip, but overall not
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too bad,
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let's see what it looks like dynamically, okay, so as he gets swinging you'll
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see
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going through there's kind of this little chase move of the upper body, that's
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when he's looking
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for a different way to absorb the speed, he could be going into extension and
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that would
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create more of a fuller looking finish, but that extension would have to happen
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from the
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hips in the upper spine, he doesn't look like he wants to do that, from the
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down the line,
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there's kind of that more arm movement, so there's not a lot of kind of
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pressure happening,
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there's not a lot of movement in the core and the legs, but overall kind of
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geometry for an
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upper body dominant swing, eight to bed, he doesn't like lose a lot of the
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integrity in the shoulder,
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it's just not being powered enough from the body to carry it all the way to a
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full finish,
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not bad, okay so looking at a couple tour pros, we got body scan looking at hip
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shoulders core
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and feet, so here we got Rory, if we go through from this follow through
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position, you'll see
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arms are staying out wide, kind of wrist, wrist or moving with it, so it's kind
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of like he's
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holding on to a cable that's pulling him and his body, his ribs are moving with
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it and extending,
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his hip is moving with it and extending, he's getting through into that,
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getting pulled into a
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total body kind of rotational pattern, you'll see that the shoulders maybe a
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little bit of trail,
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or lead, sorry trail shoulder hike, I always get confused in the follow through
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, but overall
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very good looking shoulder integrity, so if we go just to that
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finish position and you'll see he drifts a little bit out of the the side bend,
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that's part of why
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that trail or that right shoulder had to have a little bit more of the shrug,
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kind of so there
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might be something going on in that sling there, but overall elbows shoulders
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maintain pretty good
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extension or width staying in front of the chest, so he hasn't collapsed there,
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his body has kept
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going with it, but not excessive just rotation, there's the vertical movement
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and extension of the
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hip, overall great looking positions, all right finished positions are a little
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boring, but let's
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at least at the tour level, so here we go from follow through taking him up
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into that finished
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position, you'll see lots of movement and flexibility in the hips, because he's
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actually getting past,
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let's see where he's compensating, because he's getting a lot of movement in
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the ankle,
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but a lot of internal rotation at that hip, so potentially the abs and the core
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aren't absorbing
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enough, kind of avoids using the abs a little bit, you'll see that through
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there the hips keep
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rotating, the ankles rotate, but the ribs don't really move a lot through there
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compared to how
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much the arms move and compared to how much the hips move, so he does a good
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job of keeping the
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shoulder integrity, but the differential between his chest and his hips is kind
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of low, his ribs
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00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:24.290
look like they're not moving quite as well as say we saw with Rory, but really
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good hip extension,
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lots of hip flexibility, little danger getting in the outside of the ankle that
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much, but if he was
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gonna not do that he'd have to absorb it more with the core or with the abs,
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again looking at
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the positions I like to see that looks really good, shaft angle, elbow line,
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lead hip to foot,
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00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.200
all that stuff looks really consistent, that's probably part of the reason why
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he's such a
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consistent ball striker, okay so again when you're scanning these positions,
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just wanted to look
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00:29:00.840 --> 00:29:03.210
through and talk through a couple, but when you're scanning these positions you
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're looking at
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from the arm perspective, one's work top down, you've got your shoulder
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00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:09.800
rotation,
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00:29:09.800 --> 00:29:14.580
scapular position, especially looking at how much shrug and protraction, ret
530
00:29:14.580 --> 00:29:15.400
raction you got going
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on, you got the abs versus the core, or sorry the abs and the core looking at
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00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:21.880
glutes versus back,
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so hip extension versus back extension versus hip flexion going using the hip
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flexors or quad,
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00:29:28.520 --> 00:29:32.530
like little knee buckles, and then where is the spinous extending, is it
536
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happening in the thoracic
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spine, the ribs, or is it just happening, so is it happening in the thoracic
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spine, or is it happening
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down in the lumbar spine, so or is it happening throughout the whole spine,
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which would be more
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ideal, or is there no extension, it's just staying in flexion and getting all
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of the lift from
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the arms, which is a common pattern you'll see, especially with some of your
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00:29:58.250 --> 00:29:58.920
older guys,
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foot connection, are we ending up all the way on the outside of the toes, or
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are we ending up on
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the cuboid, if you're on the cuboid you'll have a little bit of inversion of
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the foot, or getting
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to the outside of the foot, but not like a Jordan speed, or you know all the
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way on the outside of
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the ankle, and then is the trail foot fully extended, is the knee fully
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extended, those can give you
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insights into how they're using that right leg, are they going through
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extension, or are they just
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turning, so if I'm going through like a triple extension pattern, then as I'm
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going through,
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this foot is kind of pushing, that knee is pushing, all that is done, so that I
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'm getting full glute
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00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:49.230
activity there, where if I kind of stay level and kind of spin more, then that
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00:30:49.230 --> 00:30:51.080
foot will tend to
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00:30:51.080 --> 00:30:55.880
kick back, kind of like so, so you'll see by the finish position that there's a
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00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.320
blend of rotation,
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as well as vertical force. So Michael Manavian posted a picture a little while
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00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:04.280
back, I thought
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this would be perfect for the finish position, it was kind of an attack at Nick
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Faldo, at least
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00:31:10.040 --> 00:31:14.380
that's how I interpreted it, but it is interesting to see this is what happened
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throughout his career,
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00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:20.680
you can you can see over here on the right is young Nick Faldo, you can see
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full hip and leg
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00:31:22.040 --> 00:31:27.530
extension, you know maybe elbow is a little high in shafts oracle, but that was
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a little bit more
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00:31:28.760 --> 00:31:35.250
part classic with that, the swing style in that day, but lots of rotation, lots
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of extension,
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and you'll see throughout the years he got less hip extension, less spine
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extension,
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00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:48.750
so the arm might be a little bit higher, these are pretty close to the same,
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but you can just see
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00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:56.190
dynamically there's a lot less going on in the core, now it's no secret that he
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00:31:56.190 --> 00:31:58.040
kind of prioritized
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accuracy over power, and so using his body less effectively didn't really hurt
582
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his goals, but it
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probably shortened his career because he started getting lapped in terms of
584
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distance, so just thought
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that was an interesting thing, interesting way to look at what like how you can
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use the finish
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just to see all right how much of their body are they using, are they using
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their whole body to
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swing this club or are they just using their arms, okay so now with Mr. Good
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looking swing here,
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pretty much all the key checkpoints maybe a little bit going on there, maybe a
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little bit of kind of
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00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:47.520
excessive rotation here, maybe not quite some hip extension, let's look at it
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dynamically,
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okay so from this follow-through position we can see kind of coming out of the
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extension of the
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00:33:01.560 --> 00:33:08.190
hips instead of continuing to go into it, so again a little like excessive
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extension from the legs,
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00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.490
not quite as much, so excessive extension from the knees, not quite as much
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00:33:15.490 --> 00:33:16.600
from the hips,
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00:33:16.600 --> 00:33:27.520
so that's where we'll see through there it's kind of like mostly rotation
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instead of having a little
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bit more of the vertical force, if the vertical was happening from the legs
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then he might have to have
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a little bit more rotation from the ribs, so he gets a little excess happening
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at the knees and a
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little excess happening at the shoulders, those are both kind of avoiding this
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hip and core part of
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00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:54.350
the equation just a little bit, but overall really good looking move, all right
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our main brooks,
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so brooks here we've got very little pelvis rotation, more borax and shoulder
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rotation,
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00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:10.930
don't even get to some of the checkpoints but the arms stay in front, not a ton
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of shrugging,
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maybe not a lot of hip extension but not too shabby, let's see what it looks
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like dynamically,
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all right so looking at it dynamically, this is a good one for just kind of
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understanding
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this whole find the fixed point and what's moving, what's not idea, so on the
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way through you'll see
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if you look at the right ankle just stare right here where the mouse is, if you
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look at that right
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ankle there's not a lot of movement, if you look at the knee that right knee
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there's not a lot of
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movement, if you look at the hip there's not a lot of movement, he's basically
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locked that right leg
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against the ground, that's the fixed point for his shoulder to then kind of
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throw past, so you'll
629
00:34:53.720 --> 00:35:01.480
see that right arm extension and kind of internal rotation whip the club over
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all through there,
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so he's created this fixed point down here around his pelvis, probably into his
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ribs so that the
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shoulder can internally rotate even faster, so we don't get, this probably is
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little rotation
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00:35:20.600 --> 00:35:26.360
of the pelvis as I've seen, maybe it's a little bit more there, but overall
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00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:27.880
this is very much an
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upper body dominant swing with a lower body brake or lower body support or
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encouraging that upper
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00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:39.780
body movement, now it's pretty, I would expect to see a lot more early
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00:35:39.780 --> 00:35:41.480
extension, but he gets
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00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:45.720
more of that the shallowing and early extension movement from his upper body
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00:35:45.720 --> 00:35:46.600
moving backward
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00:35:46.600 --> 00:35:51.790
rather than his legs moving in, he kind of keeps that lower body very fixed,
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00:35:51.790 --> 00:35:52.600
that probably helps
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00:35:52.600 --> 00:35:58.210
minimize some of the chaos but it also limits some of the power, all right,
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00:35:58.210 --> 00:35:59.320
looking at this position
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00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.790
other than maybe, okay we've got a vertical shaft and maybe the elbow's touch
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00:36:04.790 --> 00:36:05.800
high, but overall
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00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:13.070
good integrity in the shoulder is good symmetric extension, good location there
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, maybe a
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00:36:14.120 --> 00:36:20.920
tad on the outside of the foot, so maybe a little excessive lower body rotation
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00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:21.400
action,
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00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:26.760
because we can see this foot and this foot, let's take a look at it dynamically
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, so from the face on
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00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:36.710
view, he's kind of deceiving us here in the finish position, because if we look
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at it through
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00:36:38.040 --> 00:36:43.660
there, not a lot of hip extension, definitely more of a rotation movement, but
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then he kind of
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00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:49.740
masks it to get into a really good looking finish position, so glad we got this
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one in here, he'll
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00:36:51.080 --> 00:36:56.060
show you how when you're looking at the release, you've got to look at it in
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00:36:56.060 --> 00:36:57.400
kind of the purity
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of what's happening in the release, because sometimes what they do is that they
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kind of
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00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.490
do a move that isn't great and then they kind of fake it and get to the
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position that they
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00:37:06.520 --> 00:37:13.930
think they should, so if we look at it more through there, kind of upper body
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00:37:13.930 --> 00:37:15.080
dominant,
669
00:37:15.080 --> 00:37:21.570
club kind of whips over and then he gets into that more body movement, so the
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timing
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isn't really what we would expect to see or what we saw with Rory and Colin, so
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he's got the physical capability to get there, means that it's more of a
673
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.000
coordination/movement
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00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:44.960
pattern rather than avoiding it. All right, and then one of the best, great
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00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.120
extension, look at that
676
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tiptoe leg extension, we had a touch shoulder, we had kind of a higher finish,
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00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:53.720
let's look at the
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great Jack Nicholas dynamically, all right, dynamically, we got Golden Bear
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00:38:00.770 --> 00:38:03.240
getting into all
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00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:07.300
these classic positions, come on, okay, so we get into that follow through
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00:38:07.300 --> 00:38:08.360
position and then
682
00:38:10.040 --> 00:38:16.000
just a little bit of arm extension, so potentially he would have had to absorb
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a little bit more in
684
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:23.150
that shoulder girdle, he's got a little shrug going on there, so that shrug and
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00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:24.360
lift is kind of the
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00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:29.110
way that he's using his upper trap and deltoids to kind of absorb it versus if
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he had those shoulders
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00:38:30.520 --> 00:38:35.770
kind of more retracted and spinning around, he would be doing it more from the
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00:38:35.770 --> 00:38:37.480
core and he'd feel
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00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:44.850
kind of a little bit more wit through there, but great hip extension, again, it
691
00:38:44.850 --> 00:38:46.680
's a non-critical
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00:38:46.680 --> 00:38:52.200
aspect, be curious if he has any shoulder or neck issues at this point, but
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he had to find any flaws in this guy's movement, but my job is to help you just
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look at the movement
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objectively and not get too swayed by who's doing it or how well it's working,
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if we're looking,
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if we're scanning each of our key segments, looks good, looks good, looks good,
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could be slightly
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00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.850
improved, but looks pretty good, so hopefully this whole series has helped you
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come up with a
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00:39:21.720 --> 00:39:27.420
different way to look at movement and giving you some ideas on how to analyze
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00:39:27.420 --> 00:39:28.600
the golf swing
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00:39:28.600 --> 00:39:32.940
based on the key positional references as well as what's happening dynamically
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through those
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phases so that you can understand those key positional checkpoints may be even
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a little bit
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deeper. As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email or
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comment and
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look forward to checking out the second part of level two when we start diving
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into the 3D graphs
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coming up soon.
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All right, coaches, here we go with the last installment of the position
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program, looking
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at P10.
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This is the finished position.
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So we are going to keep it in the context of arms versus body, bracing versus
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coasting
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and a little bit of revealing the path and things like that.
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But this is really an extension of looking at P8, but it can give us some
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details that
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we might not just see from looking at P8.
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So just keeping in context, the simple movement guide, we'll do our last little
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recap of this.
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So what's moving, what's not, whenever you're looking at movement, you can kind
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of think
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about the muscles in the fascia and you can think about what part is moving.
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In order to move, you have to have some anchor.
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So some of the common fixed points or anchors are going to be the main joint.
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So the foot, the knee connect as an anchor, the pelvis, the hip, the ribs are a
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common
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one, the shoulder, the elbows and the wrist can actually get locked in place
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and be a
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fixed point.
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So always think relationships versus just absolutes.
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So local versus global, what's happening for one area might be a compensation
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for something
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nearby.
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So common areas to look at are the hips and the feet working together, the hips
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and the
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shoulders working together, the rib cage working with either the hips or the
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shoulders, the
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shoulders and the wrists, I already said that.
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So those are kind of some of the big relationships, but it's helpful to think
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about how one part
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of the body is influencing another.
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And out versus outside in, each joint has stabilizers as well as movers.
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So if we think about the first goal is to get the joint kind of centered or
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stabilized,
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then the big movers can act more forcefully.
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If the joint is sloppy, you'll typically not be able to recruit as many motor
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units and
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you won't be able to get as much out of the movers.
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Superarms is not so much related to this, although one key thing is a lot of
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golfers
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will pull their arms in closer as they get to the finish position to kind of
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take some
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of the load off of their body.
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That's commonly, we'll talk about it a little bit later, but that's commonly
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kind of a bracing
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and using more of the shoulders versus using more of the core.
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So we'll get little glimpses at the finish position as far as what they were
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thinking
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about both the path and the face, or sorry, path and how they create speed, but
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not much
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with the face control.
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That's kind of over at P8.
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What gets loaded gets unloaded.
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So this is a great place to look at, well, what is this golfer doing to end the
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movement?
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You can see what they like to move and what they don't like to move.
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That might help you influence what's going on down in the more important phases
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.
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Same thing with working the pattern backwards.
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If you look at what's moving into the finish, you can figure out what they
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might be avoiding
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or what their preferences are.
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And then, of course, pushing the car analogy, that's what we want to use, the
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big guys to
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absorb force.
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So we should be seeing some of the big guys moving here in the finish.
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So all of them get involved in this.
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All right.
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So just a quick recap, we've got P1 through 4, which is the backswing.
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Main goals, if you've got all the individual power points, you can see the
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details, but
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main goals are shifting pressure and kind of loading up while maintaining a
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center or
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centered pivot in some sense.
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So not much vertical lateral movement.
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And then organizing the face and path so that we're in position to organize the
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path in
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the face during that first phase of the downswing.
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So first phase of the downswing, we've got P5 through 10 here.
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So early part of the downswing, we're trying to apply max pressure into that
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lead foot
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while maintaining lag or increasing some of the wrist and shoulder stretch
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during that
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downswing.
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So we're going to lead that movement more from the core, we're trying to
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already start
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organizing the face so that by this shaft parallel checkpoint, we've got our
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body creating
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a lot of the speed, but the club and arms are in a good position where we can
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then get
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some shaft lean and good compression at impact.
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As we release through to this finish position, we've got the bracing going on
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maintaining
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the spine angle, centerness of our hub or centerness of our pivot.
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And then as we look in this follow through, we can kind of see the main like
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the after
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effects of where we're using our body, where we're using our arms, what was our
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swing direction,
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we'll get some cues there.
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So there's our quick recap of the release or repeat the last video that we shot
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So stable pelvis slide, arms extending through impact to create this flat spot,
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more extended
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trail wrist or flex lead wrist at impact than it set up.
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So if they were really strong, they might work more towards the neutral.
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If they were really weak, they'll have an exaggerated position.
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But getting the wrist more in that movement there helps with squaring the club
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face and
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creating shaft lean given body driven pivot.
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The dominant normal force down at impact is pretty much unavoidable.
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The key is to get it happening more from body rotation pulling on the club
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versus just
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the arms pulling on the club.
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The shaft lean and looking at the impact line.
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So with the irons, shoulder, hip, shaft, hand, kind of all in line just after
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impact with
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the driver, it's more of the hip and shaft that helps with controlling dynamic
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loft and
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getting maximum compression, transferring energy to the golf ball.
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For consistency, we want and for playability, we want our steeps and shallows
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to match our
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ball flight goals.
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So a little bit inside out for a draw, a little bit outside in for fade, but
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having a good
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low point and depth control so that we have this nice gentle gradual bottom of
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the swing,
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that's the flat spot that tends to give us consistency.
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Okay, when we decode the release, we kind of look at scoop versus tour.
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So in the scoop release, you will typically see the trail wrist going towards
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flexion
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or rehinging or the arm going into excessive internal rotation.
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The lead wrist, you'll tend to see going towards extension, rehinging or ret
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raction of the shoulder
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blade and usually with no supination, so it'll tend to look more like that.
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the club or
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are they pushing more with that first finger or the first pressure point of
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this right index
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finger through the release, you want to see the elbows getting closer together
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versus
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getting wider or further apart.
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Typically when they get further apart, you'll see very limited supination when
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they're
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going together, getting closer together, it's easier for that lead forearm to
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supinate.
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From the body's perspective, we will tend to see with more the scoop, you'll
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tend to see
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a little bit of kind of a buckle in that lead leg, that's when I'm really kind
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of anchoring
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in the knee and the quad, it's a sign of getting more of my speed from my arms
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and you'll, or
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if I'm doing a lot with my arms, you will tend to see not a lot of body
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rotation.
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Part of that is because the pec and the lat tend to have or have facial
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attachments onto
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the pelvis, so the pec right here, the lat back here, but both of those are
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going to not
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be as strong in this position as they would be in this position, so when you
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start firing
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your arms, you're going to line things up so that it can fire and work more
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effectively.
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And then you got the geometric aspect, which is as I stand up, this is going to
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straighten.
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So as this arm straightens, I need to create more distance, otherwise I would
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hit the ground.
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So it does help control low point, it does help close the face, it helps go
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normal, but
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it creates this narrow bottom of the swing and typically has a faster club face
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closing,
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which doesn't work as well for consistency.
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Okay, so as a reminder, P8, one of my favorite positions to analyze, you see a
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lot of what's
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going on here, how well they're using the body, the core, how well they're
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doing ulnar
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deviation, how well they're doing supination, this gives you a really good path
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checkpoint,
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club face checkpoint.
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If you have the club face in view, I don't in these two videos, or these two
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pictures,
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you can see the spine angle, so how well they mained centered pivot, you can
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see remnants
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of the impact line, so what kind of axis tilt and body location they had at
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impact.
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This is one of my, one of the more telling positions, so you want to get really
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good
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at looking at it.
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But sometimes things will show up as we approach more of the finish position.
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So as we go to P10, that's kind of the end of the swing, we're going to scan a
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number
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of different things.
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You've got the lead hip to foot relationship.
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So if I had a vertical line right here, you can see that the hip is just
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slightly behind
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the foot, as opposed to directly on top of the middle of the foot.
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You can look at trail hip buckle.
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So how well has this hip stayed up?
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Basically, if I get into this position here, if I drop like this, that's called
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a trendelenburg,
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if you're looking at gate analysis, where basically I'm not using the glute med
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ius on
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the side to control the level of the pelvis, and I'm kind of like sinking
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totally into
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the hip capsule.
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I'm kind of going until I get on stretch of the capsule instead of using the
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muscle.
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That can be a sign if I did that early, that's going to create some really big
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low point
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issues.
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All right, so we got slight spine angle, so still slightly tilted.
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We're making sure that the shoulders haven't really shrugged, that the arms are
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staying
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out in front of the chest.
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We'll see that from the face on view.
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But one of the other good ones to look at here is that lead arm to shoulder
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height.
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So as I get into this finish position, especially from that down the line view,
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you can look
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at looking for about a right angle in that lead arm.
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Some people will finish way down here, and others will finish way up here.
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So you'll kind of see these two kind of like that or like that.
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But if those arms stay in front and the body is rotating it through, then this
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will tend
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to form more of that right angle.
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Also you'll see the shaft position compared to the head.
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So if it's gone like way up, it'll be more vertical.
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That's usually a sign of an overly into out path, or some too much body
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extension on the
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way through, and then coming around more like this, that would be typically
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more of kind
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of a lead shoulder pull or retraction.
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Often times that's going to create more of an outside in path down at the
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bottom or a
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little bit more steep.
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So that's where we're looking at this shaft to head/spinangle relationship.
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From this face on view, we can see the get full body rotation, especially
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looking at the
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hip to belt buckle.
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Are they internally rotating that lead hip, externally rotating that trail hip.
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Lead foot turnout, so we can see where the weight is on that foot.
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We can also see the body position compared to the feet, I don't know if that
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listed there,
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but if your hips are more in the center of your stance, that can be an
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indication of maybe
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poor lower body mechanics or needing poor lower body mechanics to match a club
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face
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problem.
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This is where elbows in front of the chest.
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So basically as I get to that finish position, there should be still some good
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shoulder blade
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integrity.
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I don't want to have those arms kind of pulling in a lot, and I don't want
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those shoulders
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pulling up a lot.
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activation,
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then I'm going to continue to get my rib cage to move around a whole lot more.
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That tends to create some of this smoothness or width down at the bottom.
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So you can scan, are they getting into some extension?
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And if they are, is it happening uniformly throughout the spine and hips, or is
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it just
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happening at one part?
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So you'll see I'm not quite as extended through my upper thoracic, it's getting
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better.
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But that's one of my physical restrictions.
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might want
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to see, but overall not too bad.
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So quick summary of that, you've got basically looking at your hips, your core,
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and your feet, hips, looking at pelvis rotation from the face on, and extension
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from the
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face on, from the core, kind of looking through the spine for a fluid curve,
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with side bend
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from the down the line and extension from the face on.
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or the
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other, although it's kind of still in front of the chest.
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Foot and ankle, that'll give you a little insight into is the rotation
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happening more
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from the knee and ankle, or is it happening more from the foot.
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So now let's dive into some of these favorite swings we've been analyzing here.
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So we got Alan first.
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If we just take a look at these two images, we can see that there's a lot we
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can learn
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from this follow through that we might not have seen from just looking at the,
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or sorry,
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the finish compared to the follow through.
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So we can see by comparing the follow through the finish, the hips didn't quite
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get around,
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more of the extension is happening in the lower back, still quite rounded there
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in the
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upper back, shoulders are a little bit shrugged.
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And you know, he's kind of on the very outside of the middle of the foot, right
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Okay, so if we take a quick look at that, so again, on the way through, we can
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see if
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we kind of scrub back and forth through there, there's a kind of lack of
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extension of that
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trail hip.
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So we'll see the ankle kind of come up in the leg, not necessarily straight
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ening the
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trail leg, not necessarily straightening.
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Now we'll see why he's getting onto the outside of that foot, he's not getting
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a whole lot
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of extension from that hip either.
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So potentially getting a little bit more hip tuck or bracing coming from the gl
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utes would
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help clean up what's happening in both the knees and the ankle.
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Secondly, if we go through, we can see that right shoulder kind of really
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reaching with
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the club.
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He keeps the elbows kind of in front of his chest pretty good, but he does have
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more of
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a shrug if we were able to see from the down the line, we probably see that
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space pretty
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closed off and we probably wouldn't see a really good maintenance of his spine
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angle.
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But you can see that there are definitely, okay, just as a general looks like
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he's kind
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of avoiding his hips, so we see some excessive compensations at the ankles and
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the shoulders.
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So that might be something we'd investigate on the lessensee.
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Alright, so Mr. Happy Feet looking at the finish, we can see not a whole lot of
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maintenance
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of the spine angle, very vertical, the trail hip, or sorry, the lead hip to
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foot.
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You can see it's pretty much on top of instead of still in that angle.
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Something going on in that foot we'll look at because there's no extension of
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that ankle.
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And then shoulders, especially this right shoulder is up a little bit, but
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overall not
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too bad, okay, so dynamically, we can see there's just kind of an early
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extension pattern.
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Right, so there's a fair amount of vertical movement, but then on the way
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through that
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vertical movement kind of stops right about here and then it just goes into
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rotation,
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which is where we see that foot coming more off the ground.
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The brace or the ending of that arm extension there isn't happening as much
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from the obliques
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in the core, so much as it is just kind of pulling those arms across the body.
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Now he does a pretty good job of maintaining the shoulder position, so there's
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not like
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a really big collapse or shrugging.
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Let's see what's happening from that face on.
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So again, this is where we see kind of, okay, everything is spinning, that
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could be just
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the foot looks a little odd, there could be a restriction like an artificial
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right hip
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or something like that, preventing the external rotation so the knee has to go
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with the hip,
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and so that's why we see that foot going.
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As he gets into a finished position other than the early extension and kind of
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the overuse
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of the arms, there's nothing kind of glaring at that position.
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He's probably pretty consistent, but probably complains about some limitations,
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especially
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distance.
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Not an awful move.
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Okay, so if we're looking at the overturner in the garage, again scanning,
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first thing
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that jumps out, it could be because the shirt will look at dynamically, you can
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see there's
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not really an extension of those hips, right?
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The pelvis is still tipped forward, the hip is still in slight flexion, ankles
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kind of
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look okay, not a lot of knee extension, that makes sense with the hips, pretty
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good spine
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extension and shoulders don't look like they're in too much of a problem, you
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know, that
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elbow to spine angle looks pretty good there, let's see what it looks like
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dynamically.
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Alright, so now let's do face on first.
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Okay, so we go through to that follow through position, and there's where the
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hip should
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continue extending, but we can see no extension from that hip, all the
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extension is happening
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more excessively here at the knees and then getting some up in that spine.
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Again, you know, not a drastic or dramatic finish issue, I think most of his is
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down
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here in the release, if we look from here, he does a pretty good job of
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maintaining that
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angle of the hip compared to the foot, maintain some spine angle, shoulders
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aren't too bad,
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maybe a little shrug of that left shoulder, like left shoulder is not quite
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working around
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the body at that point, staying in protraction maybe a bit too long, but the
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big thing is
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that excessive movement of the knees moving, compensating for the hip action,
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and then
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the lack of hip extension there in the follow through.
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Okay, so looking at this follow through position, like going on there, we can
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see the weight
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distribution, right, she's very centered, trail foot is still flat, so that's
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why we're
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not getting full pelvis rotation, we can see arms aren't, didn't stay in front,
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there's
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not a whole lot of width there, in fact, I don't even know if I can get my arm
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into
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that flexible finish position, so it looks like a lot of the speed was absorbed
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up in
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the shoulder girdle, with a little bit of rotation, definitely not a lot of
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vertical
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stuff happening, all right, so first we'll look at this face on, so we can see
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starting
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kind of right in here, that body is done and all that speed gets absorbed from
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the arms,
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so that's definitely, you know, there's not a lot of hip action going on, the
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hips stay
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in a little bit of flexion, and definitely we don't get the extension through
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the legs,
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so that kind of fits the puzzle, now this is the one where she's kind of
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pulling those
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arms in to decrease the lever arm, because if she kept her arms out wide, she
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would have
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to use like the bigger muscles to absorb the speed, instead of if she pulls it
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in close
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that decreases, you know, the effort required from the body to move the club,
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she can do
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it much easier, you can move it just with your arms when it's in close a whole
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lot easier
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than when it's out there, when it's out there you're going to want to use the
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bigger muscles,
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so what do we see from the down the line, probably, so we're going to see that
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arms staying very
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low, right, so that's a classic sign of the arm retraction kind of whipping the
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club around,
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so potentially that's a lead arm pull, just as much as it is a trail arm throw,
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when you
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see that lead shoulder kind of really pulling around like that, that'd be
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something to
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investigate, and it's just another view of what we see with not a whole lot of
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hitting
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it with the hip, so some sort of triangle 9 to 3 would probably work pretty
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well in this
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case, just to kind of get the sense of where we want the pelvis to finish and
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how we want
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it to work through the hitting area, okay, so not a bad look and follow through
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, not a
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lot of shrugging, definitely lacking some spine extension, especially in the
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upper thoracic,
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that's kind of common, and we can see kind of lacking some of the mid thoracic
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right
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bend, it's getting maybe a little bit of sag of that right hip, but overall not
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too bad,
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let's see what it looks like dynamically, okay, so as he gets swinging you'll
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see
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going through there's kind of this little chase move of the upper body, that's
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when he's looking
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for a different way to absorb the speed, he could be going into extension and
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that would
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create more of a fuller looking finish, but that extension would have to happen
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from the
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hips in the upper spine, he doesn't look like he wants to do that, from the
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down the line,
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there's kind of that more arm movement, so there's not a lot of kind of
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pressure happening,
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there's not a lot of movement in the core and the legs, but overall kind of
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geometry for an
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upper body dominant swing, eight to bed, he doesn't like lose a lot of the
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integrity in the shoulder,
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it's just not being powered enough from the body to carry it all the way to a
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full finish,
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not bad, okay so looking at a couple tour pros, we got body scan looking at hip
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shoulders core
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and feet, so here we got Rory, if we go through from this follow through
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position, you'll see
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arms are staying out wide, kind of wrist, wrist or moving with it, so it's kind
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of like he's
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holding on to a cable that's pulling him and his body, his ribs are moving with
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it and extending,
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his hip is moving with it and extending, he's getting through into that,
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getting pulled into a
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total body kind of rotational pattern, you'll see that the shoulders maybe a
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little bit of trail,
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or lead, sorry trail shoulder hike, I always get confused in the follow through
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, but overall
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very good looking shoulder integrity, so if we go just to that
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finish position and you'll see he drifts a little bit out of the the side bend,
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that's part of why
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that trail or that right shoulder had to have a little bit more of the shrug,
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kind of so there
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might be something going on in that sling there, but overall elbows shoulders
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maintain pretty good
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extension or width staying in front of the chest, so he hasn't collapsed there,
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his body has kept
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going with it, but not excessive just rotation, there's the vertical movement
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and extension of the
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hip, overall great looking positions, all right finished positions are a little
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boring, but let's
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at least at the tour level, so here we go from follow through taking him up
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into that finished
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position, you'll see lots of movement and flexibility in the hips, because he's
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actually getting past,
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let's see where he's compensating, because he's getting a lot of movement in
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the ankle,
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but a lot of internal rotation at that hip, so potentially the abs and the core
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aren't absorbing
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enough, kind of avoids using the abs a little bit, you'll see that through
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there the hips keep
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rotating, the ankles rotate, but the ribs don't really move a lot through there
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compared to how
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much the arms move and compared to how much the hips move, so he does a good
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job of keeping the
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shoulder integrity, but the differential between his chest and his hips is kind
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of low, his ribs
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look like they're not moving quite as well as say we saw with Rory, but really
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good hip extension,
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lots of hip flexibility, little danger getting in the outside of the ankle that
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much, but if he was
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gonna not do that he'd have to absorb it more with the core or with the abs,
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again looking at
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the positions I like to see that looks really good, shaft angle, elbow line,
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lead hip to foot,
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all that stuff looks really consistent, that's probably part of the reason why
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he's such a
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consistent ball striker, okay so again when you're scanning these positions,
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just wanted to look
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through and talk through a couple, but when you're scanning these positions you
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're looking at
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from the arm perspective, one's work top down, you've got your shoulder
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rotation,
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scapular position, especially looking at how much shrug and protraction, ret
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raction you got going
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on, you got the abs versus the core, or sorry the abs and the core looking at
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glutes versus back,
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so hip extension versus back extension versus hip flexion going using the hip
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flexors or quad,
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like little knee buckles, and then where is the spinous extending, is it
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happening in the thoracic
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spine, the ribs, or is it just happening, so is it happening in the thoracic
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spine, or is it happening
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down in the lumbar spine, so or is it happening throughout the whole spine,
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which would be more
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ideal, or is there no extension, it's just staying in flexion and getting all
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of the lift from
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the arms, which is a common pattern you'll see, especially with some of your
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older guys,
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foot connection, are we ending up all the way on the outside of the toes, or
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are we ending up on
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the cuboid, if you're on the cuboid you'll have a little bit of inversion of
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the foot, or getting
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to the outside of the foot, but not like a Jordan speed, or you know all the
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way on the outside of
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the ankle, and then is the trail foot fully extended, is the knee fully
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extended, those can give you
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insights into how they're using that right leg, are they going through
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extension, or are they just
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turning, so if I'm going through like a triple extension pattern, then as I'm
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going through,
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this foot is kind of pushing, that knee is pushing, all that is done, so that I
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'm getting full glute
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activity there, where if I kind of stay level and kind of spin more, then that
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foot will tend to
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kick back, kind of like so, so you'll see by the finish position that there's a
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blend of rotation,
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as well as vertical force. So Michael Manavian posted a picture a little while
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back, I thought
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this would be perfect for the finish position, it was kind of an attack at Nick
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Faldo, at least
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that's how I interpreted it, but it is interesting to see this is what happened
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throughout his career,
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you can you can see over here on the right is young Nick Faldo, you can see
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full hip and leg
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extension, you know maybe elbow is a little high in shafts oracle, but that was
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a little bit more
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part classic with that, the swing style in that day, but lots of rotation, lots
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of extension,
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and you'll see throughout the years he got less hip extension, less spine
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extension,
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so the arm might be a little bit higher, these are pretty close to the same,
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but you can just see
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dynamically there's a lot less going on in the core, now it's no secret that he
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kind of prioritized
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accuracy over power, and so using his body less effectively didn't really hurt
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his goals, but it
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probably shortened his career because he started getting lapped in terms of
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distance, so just thought
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that was an interesting thing, interesting way to look at what like how you can
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use the finish
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just to see all right how much of their body are they using, are they using
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their whole body to
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swing this club or are they just using their arms, okay so now with Mr. Good
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00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.000
looking swing here,
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pretty much all the key checkpoints maybe a little bit going on there, maybe a
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little bit of kind of
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00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:47.520
excessive rotation here, maybe not quite some hip extension, let's look at it
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dynamically,
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okay so from this follow-through position we can see kind of coming out of the
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extension of the
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hips instead of continuing to go into it, so again a little like excessive
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00:33:08.190 --> 00:33:10.440
extension from the legs,
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not quite as much, so excessive extension from the knees, not quite as much
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from the hips,
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so that's where we'll see through there it's kind of like mostly rotation
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instead of having a little
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bit more of the vertical force, if the vertical was happening from the legs
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then he might have to have
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a little bit more rotation from the ribs, so he gets a little excess happening
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at the knees and a
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little excess happening at the shoulders, those are both kind of avoiding this
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hip and core part of
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00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:54.350
the equation just a little bit, but overall really good looking move, all right
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our main brooks,
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so brooks here we've got very little pelvis rotation, more borax and shoulder
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rotation,
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00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:10.930
don't even get to some of the checkpoints but the arms stay in front, not a ton
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of shrugging,
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maybe not a lot of hip extension but not too shabby, let's see what it looks
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like dynamically,
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all right so looking at it dynamically, this is a good one for just kind of
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understanding
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this whole find the fixed point and what's moving, what's not idea, so on the
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way through you'll see
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if you look at the right ankle just stare right here where the mouse is, if you
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look at that right
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ankle there's not a lot of movement, if you look at the knee that right knee
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there's not a lot of
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00:34:43.080 --> 00:34:46.560
movement, if you look at the hip there's not a lot of movement, he's basically
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locked that right leg
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against the ground, that's the fixed point for his shoulder to then kind of
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00:34:52.570 --> 00:34:53.720
throw past, so you'll
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00:34:53.720 --> 00:35:01.480
see that right arm extension and kind of internal rotation whip the club over
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all through there,
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so he's created this fixed point down here around his pelvis, probably into his
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00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:09.800
ribs so that the
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00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:18.610
shoulder can internally rotate even faster, so we don't get, this probably is
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little rotation
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of the pelvis as I've seen, maybe it's a little bit more there, but overall
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00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:27.880
this is very much an
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upper body dominant swing with a lower body brake or lower body support or
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encouraging that upper
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00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:39.780
body movement, now it's pretty, I would expect to see a lot more early
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extension, but he gets
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more of that the shallowing and early extension movement from his upper body
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00:35:45.720 --> 00:35:46.600
moving backward
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00:35:46.600 --> 00:35:51.790
rather than his legs moving in, he kind of keeps that lower body very fixed,
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00:35:51.790 --> 00:35:52.600
that probably helps
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minimize some of the chaos but it also limits some of the power, all right,
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00:35:58.210 --> 00:35:59.320
looking at this position
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00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.790
other than maybe, okay we've got a vertical shaft and maybe the elbow's touch
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00:36:04.790 --> 00:36:05.800
high, but overall
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good integrity in the shoulder is good symmetric extension, good location there
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, maybe a
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00:36:14.120 --> 00:36:20.920
tad on the outside of the foot, so maybe a little excessive lower body rotation
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00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:21.400
action,
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because we can see this foot and this foot, let's take a look at it dynamically
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, so from the face on
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00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:36.710
view, he's kind of deceiving us here in the finish position, because if we look
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at it through
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there, not a lot of hip extension, definitely more of a rotation movement, but
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00:36:43.660 --> 00:36:44.760
then he kind of
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00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:49.740
masks it to get into a really good looking finish position, so glad we got this
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one in here, he'll
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show you how when you're looking at the release, you've got to look at it in
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kind of the purity
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of what's happening in the release, because sometimes what they do is that they
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kind of
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do a move that isn't great and then they kind of fake it and get to the
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position that they
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00:37:06.520 --> 00:37:13.930
think they should, so if we look at it more through there, kind of upper body
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00:37:13.930 --> 00:37:15.080
dominant,
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00:37:15.080 --> 00:37:21.570
club kind of whips over and then he gets into that more body movement, so the
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timing
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00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:30.760
isn't really what we would expect to see or what we saw with Rory and Colin, so
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he's got the physical capability to get there, means that it's more of a
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coordination/movement
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00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:44.960
pattern rather than avoiding it. All right, and then one of the best, great
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00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.120
extension, look at that
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tiptoe leg extension, we had a touch shoulder, we had kind of a higher finish,
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00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:53.720
let's look at the
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great Jack Nicholas dynamically, all right, dynamically, we got Golden Bear
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00:38:00.770 --> 00:38:03.240
getting into all
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00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:07.300
these classic positions, come on, okay, so we get into that follow through
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00:38:07.300 --> 00:38:08.360
position and then
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00:38:10.040 --> 00:38:16.000
just a little bit of arm extension, so potentially he would have had to absorb
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00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.320
a little bit more in
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00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:23.150
that shoulder girdle, he's got a little shrug going on there, so that shrug and
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00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:24.360
lift is kind of the
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way that he's using his upper trap and deltoids to kind of absorb it versus if
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he had those shoulders
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00:38:30.520 --> 00:38:35.770
kind of more retracted and spinning around, he would be doing it more from the
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00:38:35.770 --> 00:38:37.480
core and he'd feel
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00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:44.850
kind of a little bit more wit through there, but great hip extension, again, it
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00:38:44.850 --> 00:38:46.680
's a non-critical
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00:38:46.680 --> 00:38:52.200
aspect, be curious if he has any shoulder or neck issues at this point, but
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he had to find any flaws in this guy's movement, but my job is to help you just
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look at the movement
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objectively and not get too swayed by who's doing it or how well it's working,
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if we're looking,
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00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:15.960
if we're scanning each of our key segments, looks good, looks good, looks good,
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00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:16.760
could be slightly
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00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.850
improved, but looks pretty good, so hopefully this whole series has helped you
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come up with a
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00:39:21.720 --> 00:39:27.420
different way to look at movement and giving you some ideas on how to analyze
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00:39:27.420 --> 00:39:28.600
the golf swing
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based on the key positional references as well as what's happening dynamically
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00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:33.400
through those
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00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:39.640
phases so that you can understand those key positional checkpoints may be even
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a little bit
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deeper. As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email or
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comment and
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look forward to checking out the second part of level two when we start diving
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into the 3D graphs
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coming up soon.
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