P8 - Follow Through Position

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All right coaches, here we go with one more presentation on the follow-through,

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so the last

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presentation we focused on the release, but I do so much coaching on the follow

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-through position

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that I wanted to do a follow-up presentation just on P8, so just on kind of the

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end of this way.

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We will look at the normal stuff of arms versus body, bracing versus coasting

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that comes into play

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here, and then path and face, so steeps and shallows. This is going to utilize

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all of our

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simple movement keys, so we're going to be looking at a lot of what's moving,

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what's not,

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finding the fixed point. We'll be doing some with the inner outer unit, local

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and global.

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Lever arms again is more about transition, but you can relate it to absorbing

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force as well,

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so some of the reasons why people might shorten their arms to decrease lever

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arms.

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Swing phase goals, this is one of the positions that kind of reveals a lot of

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what's going on

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in the golfer's mind down through impact, so looking at how they're creating

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power,

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how they're controlling the path, how they're controlling the face. What gets

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loaded gets

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unloaded. We are now seeing the unloaded phase, so that can help us interpret

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what's getting loaded.

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This is the end of kind of the active elements of the swing, in my opinion, so

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it's a great place

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to start working backward, even maybe better than impact, and again we're going

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to try to get the

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body moving and the arms doing a little bit less, or some certain keys. Okay,

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real quick,

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so with the backswing we talked about initiating with the core, shifting the

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pressure from that

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lead foot to the trail foot while maintaining a somewhat centered pivot and

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orienting the arms

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and the club face so that we can get into a good downswing path and delivery.

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We talked last time about during the release going from the point where the

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grip is moving

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the max speed slightly after the lead foot has reached its max pressure and

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then transferring

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all that speed to the club head while controlling the path in the face to give

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us power, solidness,

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and straightness. Okay, so if you remember with the release goals we were

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trying to have

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stable pelvic slide, getting the arms extending for the flat spot, more

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extended trail wrist,

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more flexed lead wrist at impact rather than where it was at setup, so that's

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crucial for

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shaft lean and lag. The force at the bottom will be dominantly normal force or

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back up the club,

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so when we're down at this point the force is coming basically back up this way

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as if I was

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holding on to something and it was getting pulled out of my hands that way so

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it doesn't necessarily

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mean that I'm pulling towards me because as we see the grip is moving away from

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me but I'm pulling

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radially along the club not pushing quite as hard across the club at least

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proportionally.

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Looking at the impact line that's one of the most important geometric concerns

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as it relates

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to solid contact, looking at the down the line for both the follow through and

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this

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delivery and follow through checkpoints to make sure that the club path and the

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club face are

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matching your ball flight goals and then looking at low point in depth in how

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well the club is

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just kind of brushing the ground. Quick little recap of the scoop versus the

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tour release.

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Typically with the scoop you are going to see from the trail wrist you're going

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to see

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the increased wrist flexion or increased rehinge through the impact interval

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often combined with

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excessive trail arm internal rotation like that. With the lead wrist we're

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going to see increased

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extension rates again with rehinge and oftentimes a retraction of that arm with

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no supination

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so as opposed to going there. With the trail hand we'll tend to see more of the

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pressure along

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the thumb or the webbing so I'm kind of pushing into the club more with this

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part of the hand or

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this part of the hand less with that pressure point of the index finger I

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forget which pressure

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point number that is and then we'll classically see with the scoop the elbow is

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getting further

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apart on the way through as opposed to typically the tour golfers we're going

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to see the elbows

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getting closer together. You can only do that if the arms are working in front

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of your body

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instead of more around your side so that relates to some of this normal force

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creation as well.

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Okay from the body we will tend to see in the scoot pattern more of a lead leg

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buckle so

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we'll tend to see more of that lead knee kind of flexing and diving that way.

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That's usually an

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overuse of some of the anterior hip muscles like the hip flexors and quad and

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it's also a sign of

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creating more of the speed from kind of the shoulders and arms on the way

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through instead of the

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whole body and hips, hips core and shoulders. We'll typically see no rotation

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of the body and that's

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because when the arms go to pull two things happen. One the arm fascia lines

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end at the pelvis so

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your pec and your lat both end at the pelvis so they will be stronger when the

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pelvis and the rib

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cage are more lined up which is why you'll tend to see on the way through more

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of an arm dominant

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pattern will have the pelvis and the shoulders pointing in the same direction

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and if they were

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open pointing in the same direction like that would be quite challenging. So

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they typically get

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the body more square if I face this way kind of get the body more square

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because I'm pulling with

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my shoulders like that as opposed to having a little bit more of this spinal

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twist coming down

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through impact and then the stand-up move basically geometrically for the arms

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to fit wall straight

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the body has to stand up and it tends to help create some normal force by

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pulling away like this

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but the problem is it creates the very little flat spot so it creates the club

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straight up and

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down to the bottom of the swing and the bottom of the swing really close to the

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golf ball

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and the clubface now wanting to turn over because there's no moment arm between

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the axis I'm

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pulling on in that face rotation so it tends to create really fast clubface

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closing okay

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right I had a few coaches questions come in about the release so

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this was kind of a later coach into the program he wanted me to talk about a

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specific movement

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every movement in the first webinar I talked about how every movement is more

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accurate when

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it starts from proximal to distal or when it moves from core outward it's not

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only more let's

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say accurate it's safer it's more efficient you create tension through the

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longest part of the chain

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and you kind of increase that tension incrementally instead of like fixing it

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all at once

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which I think of like you know if you had a heavier object at the end without

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stability in the middle

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kind of a weak point in the chain in the middle tends to be more likely to

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break so anyway

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every movement is more accurate when it starts proximal to distal so when you

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want to activate

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the legs you work from the core question mark so basically he was looking at

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the the left crunch

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or what happens in transition um and like if I could go over some of the core

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movement so

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I think of it you know kind of in this pattern here so

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if I want to push my leg against the ground then I'm going to activate my core

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muscles to stabilize

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my pelvis is my if my core was really loose and I went to push against the

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ground my pelvis would

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kind of um not be a firm fixed point for my leg to push so it would be less

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efficient

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now if I go to push my body off the ground the fixed point is now down at the

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foot the core is

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going to be tight enough so that when I push with the hip it's going to

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transfer the energy that way

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um so basically what's happening is from as I start to push with my leg the

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energy is going

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from the core down to the foot from the foot back up to the core so it's kind

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of working in this

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chain kind of like that um but the the key there is just that my core my trans

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verse abdominis

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internal oblique multivitus um some of these really deep core stabilizer

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muscles are active to

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stabilize the spine and stabilize the pelvis so that when I push the leg um the

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pelvis doesn't

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move too much with it um so now there are other ways so less effective ways for

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golf um to

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stabilize or to activate the core one would be like if I overly pull with the

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back musculature

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if I overly pull with the lat this is going to lock the lumbar spine in place

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it's going to create

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a fixed point um so I can push that way uh but geometrically now it's gotten my

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oblique in a

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position where it's going to have a hard time rotating so then I'm going to be

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more likely

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to fire the arms a little bit early that could mess up my sequencing um

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compared to if I do it

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more effectively I'm in this position here and now I'm ready to rotate my ob

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lique um because the

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deep core was stabilized so there um you know we covered that a good bit in the

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transition

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that it's not just this uh the left crunch the left crunch helps um a it's a

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sign that I'm using

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the core but b that really helps load that left foot pressure um and it helps

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you stay in your

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in your posture so that when you get into this second phase of the downswing

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right around here

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as you start going into this left tilt or sorry right tilt as you start going

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into the right

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till it doesn't happen too soon if I start going into this right to to tilt uh

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right tilt too soon

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I tend to get um a little bit more stall flip messing up my flat spot I tend to

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get a little

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bit too much into out um pathwise and low point gets behind the ball so that

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left tilt just kind

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of gives this a little bit later um look uh that we see with some of the swings

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that I like to study

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so hopefully that um clears it up but if there's any more specifics other than

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how we're trying to

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get uh transverse abdominis and internal bleak active uh to both stabilize from

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the core down

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as well as from the hip up it's a key uh key connection there

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okay there were a few questions that came in um from one particular coach

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said I've recently been introduced to 3d force plates uh one day presentation

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so I'm just trying

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to tie your description to the physics of the force plates I know it's a bit of

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separate topics

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trying to get my head around it for example you talk about the pressure going

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right toe to left

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you heel cuboid I do um the example we were given on uh regarding the force

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plates is if you were

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standing on your left foot only and you jump backward you pushing the ground

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away from you or

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pushing your toes against the end of your foot so would the pressure be more

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towards the toes

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with regard to the rotational force okay so this is where um pressure versus

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force

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comes into play uh let's use got a notepad here all right so hopefully we can

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see this pretty

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easily so I've got notepad here I'm going to take my pen and put it in the

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center here okay so right

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now the pressure is where that point of the tip would be so if we had this as

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the force plate map

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then you know here's here's my foot boom there's my pressure right right there

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in the center now

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even if I'm pushing at an angle this way this way this way this way this way no

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matter where I'm

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pushing because the tip of the pen is right there in the center the printer the

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pressure

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would be in the center um but the direction that I'm pushing would be related

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to the angle of the pen

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so basically what happens during the downswing is the pressure moves from the

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toes into the heels

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pressure is moving if I get far enough away the pressure is moving back this

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way here

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into my heel but the force is pushing enough forward so that it creates the

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rotation

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so the the force is pushing that way which is the same thing as me stepping

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backward like this

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but the pressure is rocking into my heel as I'm doing that so it would kind of

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be if I was jumping

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I would push more with the toe side of the foot kind of like this where if I

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was rolling into the

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heel the pressure would move into the heel but the force would be going that

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way before that kind of

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ties them together because that's more of what we tend to see um with that lead

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leg in the

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downswing especially during the release I see a lot of ladies who lack lead arm

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supination

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through the release is this pattern anything to do with strength or lack of is

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this a pattern

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that you see um for any specific reason um so answer to the first question is

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yes it is related

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to strength it's primarily related to mid back strength so when we think of

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these um lever arms

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when the club gets far away from me kind of like this I'm using more of my

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shoulders you can see

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here I'm using more of my shoulders and my back to absorb the force and that

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easily supports

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that lead arm supination but if I start pulling in like if I had a cable

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machine I could pull

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with my biceps if I start pulling in with my biceps I'm not going to have a lot

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of arm rotation

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there um because that would actually make the bicep pull weaker by putting it

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on more stretch

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when I'm trying to shorten it so I would be pulling in kind of like this so

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when you see a lot of

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golfers pull in like this they're never going to have enough or um a high

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amount of supination

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they will do more lead wrist flexion trail arm or sorry trail wrist flexion

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trail arm internal

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rotation lead arm pull in shrug where you're using more your upper back instead

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of your mid

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and lower back um but you'll definitely see that with weaker golfers um and

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golfers who are a little

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bit more upper body dominant so I tend to think that um some of the ladies

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pattern that we'll see

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and we can investigate it when we look at the the one uh lady who I have in the

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presentation

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and then the last point there was would it be possible to go back and

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demonstrate um along with

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some of my descriptions and the amateurs particularly the overturn and the

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happy feet um so the overturn

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talked about if the arms are more in front you have no verticals and uh you'd

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be very steep um

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so got a little note um we'll we'll talk about that uh in when I get to those

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people when we're

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revisiting them I'll go back through what I said with happy feet and uh

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overturn and hopefully

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the demonstrations will be a little clearer this time but as a quick note if

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you if there's

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something I say in this presentation or any of the past ones you'd like me to

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go over again

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I've no problem revisiting it it'll be much easier for us to clarify them a

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second time

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okay so as we're moving back from here's where the release starts chef parallel

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and the downswing

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this is the purpose of today's presentation looking at the follow-through

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position um so from a I

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just want to throw this out there early in the presentation from a coaching

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standpoint I use

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the 9 to 3 a lot as a diagnostic so if I'm doing a good 9 to 3 and looks kind

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of like this the

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momentum of the club goes out wide and I'm able to stop at my 3 o'clock

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position if on the other

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hand I tend to pull more up with my arms you can see even with this super light

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super short club

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it's really hard to stop there if I'm pulling more up and in with my arms I'm

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at least going to get

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to vertical so as I have golfers get better at their 9 to 3s I'll demonstrate

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you know I want you

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being able to hit you know 8 irons 150 yards or whatever you know hitting it

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pretty much as hard

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and as far as you can while being able to still stop at that follow-through

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position that's a good

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sign that you're bracing and using your body I know the golfing machine they

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call it like a

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braking drill or something like that I think that's a great way to assess how

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good you're bracing and

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core drive is through the release so I use this position to work on the

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sequence of the body through

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impact and I use this to work on path checkpoints to make sure that the club

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isn't way over to the

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left or way over to the right that it's pretty much out in front of the hands

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and I use it to look

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at clubface position I use it to look at spine angle a lot so oftentimes you'll

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see this shoulder

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coming up spine getting more vertical that's overly shallow so that facilitates

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some extra

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steep arm movements etc so I use this bracing bracing position idea quite a bit

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in my instruction

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the overall goal for that PA position is max arc arc width right around then a

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little bit before

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then close to it with the driver a little before it with the irons elbow

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separation I like to see

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the gap between the shoulder or the elbows getting closer now part of that I'll

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explain to the student

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comes from the supination and the rotation so if my arms are kind of like this

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in delivery

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then as they extend out in front and as they kind of roll over this is as close

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as I can get my elbows

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together one of the interesting things I found was when I first started looking

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at 3D and I looked

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at the elbow separation gap a lot of the good ball strikers had a closing of

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the gap from impact

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to follow through of about four inches or so and many of the amateurs it would

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be like they would

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get wider so that was one of the initial things that I kind of started playing

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around with with

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the release and the idea of how can I get them to extend their arms and get

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those elbows closer

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together bracing versus coasting comes down to kind of the timing of the force

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and whether

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I'm using the big muscles of my body so if I'm using my hips my core my lats

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that's going through

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that phase that's going to tend to create this look of connection and smooth

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ness if I'm using more

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tricep bicep shoulder muscles and quads in my knees that's going to tend to

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look a little bit more

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kind of flippish so I do I use coasting a lot in the short game where it's kind

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of a really

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smooth brace but with impact I tend to or with the full swing I tend to use

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more of this bracing

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while delivering the blow as a way to kind of get the the hips and the core

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more involved

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p8 is also where I like to see max trail side bend and max axis tilt with the

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driver anyway so

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trail side bend with everything even wedges where basically this is going to be

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its most down at

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this point a lot of students get their most down kind of right about right

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through impact and then

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they start coming up very quickly that can cause more of the early face closing

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more of a left miss

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or that can contribute to some diggy kind of thin contacts and potentially some

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shanks seen before

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from the face on this p8 is where we'll see the maximum upper body behind the

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lower body

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before the momentum the club helps pull it a little bit forward so that's where

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I'm really

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seeing this bracing action of the upper body going this way in order to

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accommodate the arm

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extension to create that flat spot all right so here are some pictures that I

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use in a presentation

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I do for for students when I'm talking about phases of the swing here just a

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couple spectrums of

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you know seeing the general picture of with the irons upper body fairly stacked

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upper body turn

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trail shoulder down arms extended and elbows close together not as much sup

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ination on this one compared

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to this one but classically this is one of the positions that I like to study

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it reveals you know

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how much am I doing from the hips and how how much am I doing from the knees

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and how we'll dig into

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some of these details today but students quickly start to see the space and the

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straightness of the

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arms compared to what they're doing and then especially you know some of your

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some of your

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older men or more upper body dominant swings where you see more of either that

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look there

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where the hips are back and the shoulders are forward and way high compared to

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seeing a little

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bit more of this axis tilt so the arm straightness the supination of the axis

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tilt they use these

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pictures and the trail shoulder being down sorry it's four um tend to use this

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little picture collage

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as a good way to communicate that goal okay so allen here we go if we take him

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to that follow

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through position so if I'm quickly just running through the little checks check

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points there's some

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some angles the arms aren't fully straight um the lead arm is bending and kind

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of the

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lead shoulder is pulling around the club has passed the chest um so

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you can kind of see as we go as we scrub through that zone there there's a lot

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more movement if you

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go back to one of my first ideas which is what's moving what's not there's a

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lot more movement at

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the wrists and arms than there is at the hips if we look at the hips we can see

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there's not a lot

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of vertical movement there's not a lot of straightening of that trail hip or

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trail leg and if we look

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at the foot you can see that right foot is just kind of rotating ideally when

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we get into the

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verticals there um verticals help create side bend so um the vertical movement

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of the of the legs

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helps create this tilt as I'm turning and so when I do that combination of tilt

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and and tilt

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you'll tend to see that my back foot is going to have a little sequence to it

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where it's going to

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roll and then it's going to extend and then as the club passes here then it's

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going to pivot

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I don't like to see kind of that movement there where essentially I'm you know

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baseball squishing

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the bug I'm turning the body um more so than pushing vertically through that

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leg we're not

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seeing a ton of vertical movement through that leg um this goes back to what I

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said last time about

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the uh the overturned guy in the garage the more that I get the arms behind me

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like this

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if I then added a lot of vertical this would tend to bottom out way back here

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so if I have

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the arms way behind me and then I create a lot of verticals the this is going

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to get kicked out

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and it's going to bottom out um a foot behind the ball or so so oftentimes you

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'll see this is behind

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and then it has to kind of like slide and be more of an upper body dominant

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release not very good

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bracing similarly if I have my arms in front like this it's the verticals that

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help get the club to

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come out and create the side bend to then shallow it out if I was on top of it

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like this and then

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really release the hands um I would tend to be too steep um because I wouldn't

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have enough side bend

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because of the over dominant arm action and the lack of verticals would show up

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in this kind of

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lead leg buckle so typically you get the arms behind forward buckle or you get

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the arms in front

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ability to go more verticals both of those create kind of a similar bottom the

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swing

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righted impact but one of them has the the flat spot or the width point much

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later um so keep

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that in mind when we take a look at this overturn hopefully that answers the

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the email question as

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far as can you demonstrate what I meant by that we'll see it here in two clips

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all right so now

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we got mr happy fee he was one that we wanted to kind of take a look at so I

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mentioned in the last

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one that there's some elbow separation um that would be looking at the space

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between the elbows

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right in here and so he's clearly getting wider kind of more like that

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or that that's probably about where the elbows are closest together and then

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they're definitely

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wider through there um that has more of the wedge look that I was talking about

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um club kind of

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pointing at the belt buckle arms on the sides that's kind of a classic wedge

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look um it talked about

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the low body rotation magically there's the down line okay I talked about the

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low body rotation

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and this is a point that I think is helpful to understand so um if I get good

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in down the line

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here the more that the back is faced this way and the club is out in front this

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looks like it's

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uh kind of on plane or um you know pointing at the target but if I was to keep

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my arms the

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same and rotate my body that would be a steep position I would need to have my

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arms in more of

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this shallow to rotated position in order to accommodate more body rotation so

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if I take someone to

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their delivery position right there and I can still see the chest I can still

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see the chest

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this way then I know that the body is on a more shallow pattern and so the arms

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are inherently

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more steep that's either going to be from kind of vertical movement or lack of

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rotation usually

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both um so that's why he could get more early early ulnar deviation or more arm

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rotation to

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shallow that out and that would facilitate or require more uh body rotation to

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get the club

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in pretty much the same uh same position there so the club position the body

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rotation the arm

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shallowing all kind of fit uh fit together to help create how they organize the

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steeps and shallows

506
00:29:31.840 --> 00:29:38.240
so now if I get to this P8 and kind of scrub back and forth you can see there's

507
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:39.040
some vertical

508
00:29:39.040 --> 00:29:43.310
movement happening at the hips not much at the ankle but that's not the end of

509
00:29:43.310 --> 00:29:44.480
the world there's

510
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:49.360
a chance you know he might have some ankle issues going on there um but from

511
00:29:49.360 --> 00:29:50.640
then down the line

512
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:57.520
we can see how vertical if I'm looking at the amount of side bend being the

513
00:29:57.520 --> 00:29:59.440
most it's definitely

514
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:06.580
uh decreasing as he's going through from somewhere you know right around there

515
00:30:06.580 --> 00:30:07.680
that shoulder is coming

516
00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:13.780
up um as opposed to staying down and through or increasing that that trail

517
00:30:13.780 --> 00:30:15.280
shoulder side bend

518
00:30:15.280 --> 00:30:20.230
all the way through the release um so his bracing pattern is going a little bit

519
00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:21.440
more in this stand-up

520
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:26.910
move and shrug move that's what creates this look of that shoulder being high

521
00:30:26.910 --> 00:30:27.920
and the elbows

522
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:35.680
creating their extra whip so doing some merry-go-round or head on a pillow um

523
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:36.080
might be

524
00:30:36.080 --> 00:30:41.300
useful for helping create that flat spot so the club wouldn't be coming up

525
00:30:41.300 --> 00:30:42.400
quite so quickly

526
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:50.160
but again I always caution practicing out of rough all the time is really a

527
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:50.720
challenge for

528
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:56.070
creating ideal low point conditions I'll leave it at that all right so now we

529
00:30:56.070 --> 00:30:56.560
got the

530
00:30:56.560 --> 00:31:04.300
overturned in the garage um and this is where I talked about last time okay the

531
00:31:04.300 --> 00:31:05.280
arms are back

532
00:31:05.280 --> 00:31:10.550
behind the shoulder which allows the body to go forward if I was in this

533
00:31:10.550 --> 00:31:11.840
position there

534
00:31:11.840 --> 00:31:18.960
so if I was kind of slid forward a little bit and the arms way behind my body

535
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:20.320
if I added a lot of

536
00:31:20.320 --> 00:31:24.560
vertical force that would cause the club to kick out more and because the arms

537
00:31:24.560 --> 00:31:25.840
are behind my body

538
00:31:25.840 --> 00:31:34.560
it would cause the club to bottom out there as opposed to and so we'll see he

539
00:31:34.560 --> 00:31:35.840
doesn't do a lot

540
00:31:35.840 --> 00:31:40.840
of verticals from the legs you get some vertical pull happening more at the

541
00:31:40.840 --> 00:31:42.000
wrist and he just kind

542
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:46.960
of slides that low point further and further forward to avoid hitting it fat

543
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.200
probably hits a

544
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:56.040
lot of thin shots probably hits a lot of left shots would be classic um so if

545
00:31:56.040 --> 00:31:57.120
we started by

546
00:31:57.120 --> 00:32:01.940
working on a delivery position getting into good delivery he would have a whole

547
00:32:01.940 --> 00:32:03.840
he would have a

548
00:32:03.840 --> 00:32:08.720
really hard time doing it correctly until he started to get more of that

549
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:10.560
vertical movement

550
00:32:10.560 --> 00:32:15.840
of the legs creating the side bend to deliver the club down the ball instead of

551
00:32:15.840 --> 00:32:16.800
doing it all with

552
00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:28.370
this wrist um from the down the line we can see that elbow getting behind that

553
00:32:28.370 --> 00:32:29.200
trail leg going

554
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:36.560
into more of that kind of launch but even though the the foot is coming way off

555
00:32:36.560 --> 00:32:38.560
the ground you can

556
00:32:38.560 --> 00:32:42.460
see that the height of the pelvis doesn't really increase through there now he

557
00:32:42.460 --> 00:32:43.440
probably gets his

558
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:51.180
max side bend there um but it's a little bit more um kind of early extension

559
00:32:51.180 --> 00:32:52.800
pattern where that leg

560
00:32:52.800 --> 00:32:58.900
and that trail hip it's not getting a whole lot of extension through the trail

561
00:32:58.900 --> 00:33:00.720
hip um this follow

562
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.280
through position is a good place to look at that how much the the knee is

563
00:33:05.280 --> 00:33:06.880
behind the pelvis or in

564
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:11.700
front of it um that can show you whether the hip is going into more extension

565
00:33:11.700 --> 00:33:12.800
or more flexion

566
00:33:13.360 --> 00:33:20.400
um so basically he's kind of keeping that hip inflection there as opposed to

567
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:21.360
getting some glute

568
00:33:21.360 --> 00:33:26.810
squeeze and some extension through there um so he would be a good candidate for

569
00:33:26.810 --> 00:33:27.840
some trail leg

570
00:33:27.840 --> 00:33:35.040
hip action or some trail leg bracing um but hopefully that clears up why i was

571
00:33:35.040 --> 00:33:35.680
talking about

572
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:39.060
those verticals when you're doing delivery and go and getting your hands in

573
00:33:39.060 --> 00:33:40.560
front um part of the

574
00:33:40.560 --> 00:33:44.690
trick there is you have to time the vertical and the pivot uh in order to get

575
00:33:44.690 --> 00:33:45.760
solid contact because

576
00:33:45.760 --> 00:33:48.710
you've put them in a position where they can't do it very easily just with the

577
00:33:48.710 --> 00:33:51.600
wrist okay so

578
00:33:51.600 --> 00:33:58.320
maybe this is a good place where we can talk about that lack of supination um

579
00:33:58.320 --> 00:34:00.560
again part of that goes

580
00:34:00.560 --> 00:34:09.280
to uh if you're overly pulling in right kind of pulling the club in this way um

581
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:10.240
which is a form

582
00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:18.060
of creating that normal or vertical force you'll tend to see the arms bend and

583
00:34:18.060 --> 00:34:20.080
separate and when

584
00:34:20.080 --> 00:34:24.900
they bend and separate um they're gonna tend to stay more in internal rotation

585
00:34:24.900 --> 00:34:27.040
like this um and

586
00:34:27.040 --> 00:34:32.230
you're gonna tend to act be activating your wrist flexors which is going to

587
00:34:32.230 --> 00:34:33.840
prevent some of this

588
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:41.840
uh supination and rotation so let's look at this p8 position we can see the

589
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.760
upper body is on top

590
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:49.860
or kind of forward of the lower body so there's not a lot of tilt i would be

591
00:34:49.860 --> 00:34:51.280
using the the pictures

592
00:34:52.080 --> 00:34:56.720
to show us trying to get into this position and the more that you stay flexed

593
00:34:56.720 --> 00:34:57.680
forward the more that

594
00:34:57.680 --> 00:35:00.880
you're going to have to use your arms to create height because if the arms kept

595
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.320
extending um they

596
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.270
wouldn't be able to get up any higher it's part of that body extension that

597
00:35:06.270 --> 00:35:07.600
helps bring the arms up

598
00:35:07.600 --> 00:35:14.940
through kind of that mid follow through range if we scrub if we scrub back and

599
00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:16.880
forth you can see

600
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:22.980
not a lot happening with that wrist uh the wrist supination not a lot of

601
00:35:22.980 --> 00:35:23.360
vertical

602
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:29.600
force going on more of the movement is rotation of the scapular girdle you can

603
00:35:29.600 --> 00:35:30.400
see at this point

604
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:37.570
how far that arm is behind um so basically at that point how far that elbow has

605
00:35:37.570 --> 00:35:39.680
gone behind the body

606
00:35:39.680 --> 00:35:44.500
it's kind of pulling around like this as opposed to using more the hip movement

607
00:35:44.500 --> 00:35:45.440
and working on some

608
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.000
arm structure or arm connection uh would probably help so this is where she

609
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.040
would have a really

610
00:35:51.040 --> 00:35:57.270
hard time stopping at a nine to three she would want to go at least up until

611
00:35:57.270 --> 00:36:00.000
about there um in

612
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:04.340
order to stop until she learned how to keep her arms a little bit more uh

613
00:36:04.340 --> 00:36:05.760
straight and kind of

614
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.490
passive and control the movement a little bit more with her bigger muscles okay

615
00:36:09.490 --> 00:36:10.480
so with this

616
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:14.390
guy we're going to look at the coming out of posture limited ulnar trail hip

617
00:36:14.390 --> 00:36:15.360
lower trail leg

618
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:21.710
not straight so looking at that p8 position you can see that even in his

619
00:36:21.710 --> 00:36:24.000
practice swings here

620
00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:31.350
that shoulder is finishing much higher and more uh level so you'll see it's

621
00:36:31.350 --> 00:36:32.400
down in a pretty good

622
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:36.990
side bend there but um there's a little bit of kind of trail runoff where that

623
00:36:36.990 --> 00:36:37.680
shoulder

624
00:36:39.200 --> 00:36:45.840
is coming up and over so he probably hits some pull hooks as his main complaint

625
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:52.450
probably hit some more fat and thin though because of the lack of verticals we

626
00:36:52.450 --> 00:36:53.520
can see that the belt

627
00:36:53.520 --> 00:37:00.560
kind of stays sag doesn't have a whole lot of lift through there um because the

628
00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:01.680
legs are working

629
00:37:01.680 --> 00:37:07.910
more in a slide and rotate but not much of the vertical now he's in a position

630
00:37:07.910 --> 00:37:08.800
that he could

631
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.380
use some vertical but he gets a pretty pronounced straightening of that trail

632
00:37:14.380 --> 00:37:15.840
arm as opposed to

633
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:21.470
getting more of the body more of the hit from the shoulder coming down because

634
00:37:21.470 --> 00:37:23.760
it's that the leg

635
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:29.860
extension that helps create the side bend um coupled with the kind of ab

636
00:37:29.860 --> 00:37:31.280
rotation that brings the

637
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:37.890
arm down while delaying the straightening of it so he looks like he's trying to

638
00:37:37.890 --> 00:37:38.960
hold that back but

639
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:44.150
then right around here instead of getting that shoulder down using the vertical

640
00:37:44.150 --> 00:37:45.120
s he gets it down

641
00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:49.940
more with the arm so then he uh kind of slides forward to help move that low

642
00:37:49.940 --> 00:37:51.760
point forward that

643
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:57.860
creates um or feeds the the contact pattern that we're probably seeing here so

644
00:37:57.860 --> 00:37:59.600
he might be able

645
00:37:59.600 --> 00:38:08.090
to stop his swing there um but he would have a hard time stopping there with he

646
00:38:08.090 --> 00:38:08.560
would have a

647
00:38:08.560 --> 00:38:14.040
hard time not hitting a fat if we worked on getting some leg extension through

648
00:38:14.040 --> 00:38:14.560
there

649
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:22.420
okay so now if we look at some p8s from some pros and kind of scrub back and

650
00:38:22.420 --> 00:38:23.520
forth you'll see

651
00:38:23.520 --> 00:38:31.440
a blend of movements you'll see some good extension in this trail hip compared

652
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:32.320
to the belt you can

653
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.770
see that the the glute is pretty active from the space on view um you'll see

654
00:38:37.770 --> 00:38:40.080
from the down the line

655
00:38:40.720 --> 00:38:46.060
the the shoulder and the side bend continues to increase so this is pointing

656
00:38:46.060 --> 00:38:47.200
kind of down towards

657
00:38:47.200 --> 00:38:53.810
the ground instead of elevated um and you'll see the club staying wide which

658
00:38:53.810 --> 00:38:55.840
typically if you're

659
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:59.840
doing that with speed you're going to have some supination uh so I always say

660
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:01.680
that the supination

661
00:39:01.680 --> 00:39:06.600
is happening more from width and extension than it is from like like actively

662
00:39:06.600 --> 00:39:08.000
rolling those

663
00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:12.160
forearms over is that I'm coming from this rotated position and I'm extending

664
00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:13.280
it out and the momentum

665
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:19.380
tends to uh carry it over if I if I force it kind of rolling it over um I'll

666
00:39:19.380 --> 00:39:20.880
typically do it a little

667
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:27.250
bit too soon messing up my contact um he's got a pretty good timing of you'll

668
00:39:27.250 --> 00:39:30.080
see the verticals

669
00:39:30.080 --> 00:39:35.020
coincide with when his body is going into more right side bend down at the

670
00:39:35.020 --> 00:39:36.000
bottom on the way

671
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:42.240
through and that helps delay that right arm extension I think Rory's got some

672
00:39:42.240 --> 00:39:43.280
of the best

673
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:51.290
vertical movement in the game um then you'll see some good frame rate in this

674
00:39:51.290 --> 00:39:51.920
clip

675
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:58.830
so right around now he's starting to go into that more of that vertical

676
00:39:58.830 --> 00:40:00.880
movement of that belt

677
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.930
as that shoulder continues to go down um that's a tough movement at first uh

678
00:40:05.930 --> 00:40:07.360
but it's really core

679
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:13.560
driven um meaning so the easiest thing would be if my hips extended my upper

680
00:40:13.560 --> 00:40:14.800
body would want to

681
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:20.900
extend but if I turned that into rotation then as my hip extends this and this

682
00:40:20.900 --> 00:40:22.080
shoulder goes down

683
00:40:22.080 --> 00:40:26.990
I'm going to feel a really good side crunch in that right side um that's

684
00:40:26.990 --> 00:40:28.880
tendency to or that's a

685
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:33.440
reflection of using my obliques using my core um pretty confident that he's

686
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:34.400
feeling that right

687
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.230
there uh when we're looking at uh supination some other views I've seen you

688
00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:40.240
know his forms are

689
00:40:40.240 --> 00:40:45.680
pretty close to touching if not touching at that point um out in front of the

690
00:40:45.680 --> 00:40:46.160
chest

691
00:40:46.160 --> 00:40:56.880
you can see as I continue to go through how much that trail leg is in a hip

692
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:58.720
extended position

693
00:40:58.720 --> 00:41:05.330
so he's not getting this leg back by overly arching his back so he's not in

694
00:41:05.330 --> 00:41:06.320
kind of

695
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:11.380
that position there he's getting it more from the extension of the hip and that

696
00:41:11.380 --> 00:41:12.080
's why you can see

697
00:41:12.080 --> 00:41:19.550
the butt muscles really uh kind of pronouncedly contracting in that point it's

698
00:41:19.550 --> 00:41:20.240
more of a

699
00:41:20.240 --> 00:41:25.280
glute squeeze hopefully rather than a quad dominant leg extension and because

700
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:25.760
it's happening

701
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:32.370
more at the hip the foot gets pulled around into rotation as opposed to being

702
00:41:32.370 --> 00:41:34.240
actively pull

703
00:41:34.240 --> 00:41:41.310
actively contracted and pushed into rotation from the down the line we'll be

704
00:41:41.310 --> 00:41:42.720
able to see

705
00:41:42.720 --> 00:41:50.960
that max right side bend kind of right around there um and we'll be able to see

706
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:52.560
timing of that

707
00:41:52.560 --> 00:41:59.630
right leg and how the hip pulls the ankle around as opposed to um the foot and

708
00:41:59.630 --> 00:42:01.200
the knee kind of

709
00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:09.070
driving oftentimes uh when you see that that foot come up um when you see the

710
00:42:09.070 --> 00:42:10.080
foot kind of

711
00:42:10.080 --> 00:42:15.140
coming up more this way it's more of an ankle and a knee driven motion as

712
00:42:15.140 --> 00:42:16.880
opposed to if I'm pushing

713
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.700
more from the the hip then it will tend to go into more of this banking

714
00:42:21.700 --> 00:42:23.120
movement so

715
00:42:23.120 --> 00:42:29.760
really important movement there for a good bracing position um is getting the

716
00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:30.720
the hips to kind of

717
00:42:30.720 --> 00:42:36.380
bridge or or posterior tilt um that's getting some hip extension with coupled

718
00:42:36.380 --> 00:42:37.840
with that external

719
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:43.030
rotation that's what creates this really long leg but pelvis still facing the

720
00:42:43.030 --> 00:42:45.440
target okay can't see

721
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:55.920
is feet completely um but the classic sam sneeze squat coupled with some really

722
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:56.160
good

723
00:42:56.160 --> 00:43:02.770
banking and leg bracing so again you can see compared to the pelvis the knee

724
00:43:02.770 --> 00:43:05.200
behind um behind

725
00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:10.520
the pelvis not necessarily behind the spine um as in just make sure that it's

726
00:43:10.520 --> 00:43:11.840
not happening in the

727
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:15.970
lumbar spine or in the lower back but he's getting good hip extension that's

728
00:43:15.970 --> 00:43:17.120
more of a trail glute

729
00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:25.840
active position he's also done a great job if we come to this p8 of creating

730
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:27.120
this axis tilt

731
00:43:27.120 --> 00:43:36.500
and if we bump through you can see it just has this look of the club being

732
00:43:36.500 --> 00:43:37.360
pulled out away

733
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:42.810
and his arms kind of going with it as they rotate as opposed to him pulling

734
00:43:42.810 --> 00:43:43.280
back in

735
00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:48.560
that's part of why i think people call it the release because it has this

736
00:43:48.560 --> 00:43:49.600
feeling of kind of

737
00:43:49.600 --> 00:43:53.800
throwing the club or letting the arms go um and that'll happen if you're

738
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:55.040
powering the movement

739
00:43:55.040 --> 00:44:01.240
more with your hips your abs your lats um as opposed to powering it more with

740
00:44:01.240 --> 00:44:02.400
your triceps

741
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:09.240
deltoids pecs you know some of these big pushing muscles um as well as if you

742
00:44:09.240 --> 00:44:10.640
're bracing a lot

743
00:44:10.640 --> 00:44:15.220
with your knees so the fluidness comes from using your core um but this is a

744
00:44:15.220 --> 00:44:16.000
really good

745
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:24.800
checkpoint in position for most golfers to try to refine okay so i know i often

746
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:25.920
start at impact

747
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:33.120
or the follow the low point line but clinically i do a lot of training starting

748
00:44:33.120 --> 00:44:34.160
at this follow

749
00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:38.570
through position with nine to threes and kind of refining here especially for

750
00:44:38.570 --> 00:44:39.920
your higher handicap

751
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:46.210
golfers giving them both a place to go and some checkpoints to compare contact

752
00:44:46.210 --> 00:44:47.280
and ball flight

753
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:53.380
against can be really powerful in terms of you know kind of coming up with a

754
00:44:53.380 --> 00:44:54.720
recipe that allows

755
00:44:54.720 --> 00:44:58.380
them to feel like they can fix their problems so when we're scanning those

756
00:44:58.380 --> 00:44:59.920
pictures uh you're

757
00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:05.260
looking for the shoulder position the scapular connection um how quickly they

758
00:45:05.260 --> 00:45:06.560
've rehinged we saw

759
00:45:06.560 --> 00:45:10.460
with sam steamed there's kind of this like floating look of those arms getting

760
00:45:10.460 --> 00:45:11.840
pulled by the club

761
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:17.920
that's classic good bracing elbows getting together good supination good arm

762
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:17.920
width

763
00:45:19.120 --> 00:45:24.310
abs and core we want the glutes uh especially that trail glute um i could be a

764
00:45:24.310 --> 00:45:24.960
little bit better

765
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:28.490
there uh but i had some treatment a couple of weeks ago i'd probably be a

766
00:45:28.490 --> 00:45:29.600
little bit better if we

767
00:45:29.600 --> 00:45:35.340
did it if i retook the pictures today um but glutes versus hip versus hip flex

768
00:45:35.340 --> 00:45:36.560
ors so that's a

769
00:45:36.560 --> 00:45:43.360
good key area to scan in on hip extension versus flexion so looking at you know

770
00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:44.240
what's going on at

771
00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:49.430
the pelvis compared to this leg that's a good place to kind of get a sense of

772
00:45:49.430 --> 00:45:50.000
what chains

773
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:56.320
at the pelvis the golfers using t-spine extension versus flexion um mine might

774
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:57.200
be a little bit more

775
00:45:57.200 --> 00:46:02.440
flex than we'd want which is part of why you see a little extra protraction um

776
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:03.600
where the shoulder

777
00:46:03.600 --> 00:46:09.220
is going this way that's hard to do if the if the t-spine is more extended but

778
00:46:09.220 --> 00:46:11.280
that's a good

779
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:15.600
kind of place to get a snapshot of what's happening uh you can also look to see

780
00:46:15.600 --> 00:46:15.920
if the

781
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.750
shoulders are shrugged up especially on golfers pulling in um that can be you

782
00:46:20.750 --> 00:46:21.920
know a potential

783
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:26.750
neck or arm issue uh if golfers are kind of shrugging and pulling in to create

784
00:46:26.750 --> 00:46:27.120
the normal

785
00:46:27.120 --> 00:46:31.940
force as opposed to leaning back and using the hips and then looking at that

786
00:46:31.940 --> 00:46:33.440
foot connection so

787
00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:37.360
in where are they in the lead foot as far as from the face-on view looking at

788
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:38.560
the weight distribution

789
00:46:38.560 --> 00:46:44.660
you should be able to see kind of the inside of the toes um versus pivoting too

790
00:46:44.660 --> 00:46:45.280
much on the toe

791
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:49.570
which would be more of a knee dominant movement and then looking at are the

792
00:46:49.570 --> 00:46:50.400
legs straightening

793
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:55.360
and the belt rising or are they kind of staying level or even sagging so a few

794
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:56.640
places to scan there

795
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:06.150
so if we're looking at this follow-through position there's a look of a little

796
00:47:06.150 --> 00:47:07.120
bit excessive

797
00:47:07.120 --> 00:47:16.500
um kind of movement here in the lower back versus extension rotation of the

798
00:47:16.500 --> 00:47:19.120
trail leg um because

799
00:47:19.120 --> 00:47:25.220
compared to the the leg the pelvis is just a little bit more tilted forward

800
00:47:25.220 --> 00:47:26.480
there it's not bad

801
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:34.100
but he's good so we got to kind of nitpick these things um and then it appears

802
00:47:34.100 --> 00:47:34.560
like it's

803
00:47:34.560 --> 00:47:40.660
snapping more at the knees as opposed to the hips because the knees are getting

804
00:47:40.660 --> 00:47:41.680
closer to full

805
00:47:41.680 --> 00:47:49.440
end range of motion um rather than the the hips at that point so the hips

806
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:50.480
extending would kind of

807
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:56.230
have a look more of that where the knees extending would have more of a look

808
00:47:56.230 --> 00:47:57.040
kind of like that you

809
00:47:57.040 --> 00:48:01.680
can see that when I extend the knees that energy doesn't move my core quite the

810
00:48:01.680 --> 00:48:02.400
same way as when

811
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:08.500
I extend my hips that second time so um we talked about how there's a little

812
00:48:08.500 --> 00:48:09.520
look of not using the

813
00:48:09.520 --> 00:48:13.700
core kind of through there and then there's a second look of maybe not using

814
00:48:13.700 --> 00:48:14.800
the core quite as

815
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:21.050
well uh through through that release position potentially maybe just a little

816
00:48:21.050 --> 00:48:23.120
kind of lead arm

817
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:28.880
retraction around there early but that often you know if you're not going to

818
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:29.600
pull with your hips

819
00:48:29.600 --> 00:48:32.550
then you got to pull with something so you might be pulling a little bit more

820
00:48:32.550 --> 00:48:33.360
with the shoulder

821
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:39.760
girdle uh but overall some really good pieces looks like he gets into max side

822
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:40.720
bend there

823
00:48:40.720 --> 00:48:47.830
looks like he gets into good arm extension and width good supination with the

824
00:48:47.830 --> 00:48:49.360
better players

825
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:53.600
it's more important to be able to look for some of these little fine details uh

826
00:48:53.600 --> 00:48:54.240
and know how to

827
00:48:54.240 --> 00:48:58.840
correct them and tweak them all right our man brooks um we remember from last

828
00:48:58.840 --> 00:48:59.200
time

829
00:48:59.200 --> 00:49:04.390
he's got like decent arm extension through there but there's very little body

830
00:49:04.390 --> 00:49:05.680
movement this is much

831
00:49:05.680 --> 00:49:11.780
more of a shoulder dominant and um it kind of looks to me this is shrugging

832
00:49:11.780 --> 00:49:13.200
more than that it looks

833
00:49:13.200 --> 00:49:17.500
like this is rotating more than that looks like it's more of just an upper body

834
00:49:17.500 --> 00:49:18.720
right arm kind of

835
00:49:18.720 --> 00:49:25.040
throw uh pattern um so he does some of that transition to kind of load that

836
00:49:25.040 --> 00:49:25.680
throw

837
00:49:25.680 --> 00:49:31.920
but he would be one where if i gave him the task of okay i want you to stop it

838
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:32.880
follow through

839
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.920
there's no way i would stand past it and comfortably feel that he'd be able to

840
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.600
brace and stop there

841
00:49:39.600 --> 00:49:43.600
if we look at it from the down the line

842
00:49:46.160 --> 00:49:50.800
definitely not getting in the max side bend at that point that's usually a sign

843
00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.400
that the shoulders

844
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:56.590
are doing too much when the that right shoulder tends to rotate and straighten

845
00:49:56.590 --> 00:49:57.600
it's going to tend

846
00:49:57.600 --> 00:50:02.790
to shrug when it tends to shrug it's going to pull you out of side bend um so

847
00:50:02.790 --> 00:50:03.200
getting

848
00:50:03.200 --> 00:50:09.670
using the vertical movement of the legs to get your body to side bend a little

849
00:50:09.670 --> 00:50:11.600
bit more um kind

850
00:50:11.600 --> 00:50:17.120
of delays the look of that shoulder coming up uh you can see if i replay it

851
00:50:17.120 --> 00:50:18.960
like right in through

852
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:26.700
there it's already coming up so kind of overly dominant arm action uh which

853
00:50:26.700 --> 00:50:28.160
kind of makes sense

854
00:50:28.160 --> 00:50:32.470
with some of this lack of body rotation because the dominant arm action uh

855
00:50:32.470 --> 00:50:34.080
remember when i overly

856
00:50:34.080 --> 00:50:38.490
use the tricep pecs especially the pecs they're going to tend to stop the pel

857
00:50:38.490 --> 00:50:39.680
vis in its tracks to

858
00:50:39.680 --> 00:50:45.040
match them up he does it a lot okay if we take this

859
00:50:45.040 --> 00:50:51.280
to that follow through position really good arm extension um you know if i'm

860
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:52.080
kind of bracing

861
00:50:52.080 --> 00:50:55.760
through there you can see that there's a little extra kind of shrug of the

862
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:56.720
shoulders but that

863
00:50:56.720 --> 00:51:00.970
makes sense because his chest is pointing so far down um that he can't use

864
00:51:00.970 --> 00:51:02.560
spine extension to create

865
00:51:02.560 --> 00:51:08.660
any elevation he's he's in a position you know if i exaggerate if i'm bent

866
00:51:08.660 --> 00:51:09.840
forward like this

867
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:14.040
there's no way the club is going to if i keep this retracted that's as far as

868
00:51:14.040 --> 00:51:14.880
it would stop

869
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:20.350
that's a really short follow through so um i'm either going to use my body to

870
00:51:20.350 --> 00:51:21.280
tilt back this way

871
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:26.100
or my arms my shoulder blades are going to have to do too much or do more i

872
00:51:26.100 --> 00:51:27.840
should say in order

873
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:33.530
to get that extension so here we can see that shoulder blade look is a sign he

874
00:51:33.530 --> 00:51:34.480
's getting into this

875
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:40.040
kind of forward flexion of the pelvis um and you can see that it's really domin

876
00:51:40.040 --> 00:51:41.520
antly rotated

877
00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:47.200
because we didn't see any real hip extension there his pelvis is on an angle

878
00:51:47.200 --> 00:51:48.880
about like this

879
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:56.720
so that hip is a good 20 degrees still flexed he's got no hip extension there

880
00:51:56.720 --> 00:52:02.820
so working on kind of a follow through bracing movement i think would serve him

881
00:52:02.820 --> 00:52:03.520
pretty well

882
00:52:03.520 --> 00:52:10.000
decent with staying in that posture but it's just no hip extension

883
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:16.610
so a lot happening at the shoulder girdle a lot happening with the spinning

884
00:52:16.610 --> 00:52:17.920
forces or the

885
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:24.240
twisting forces he's rotating his body a lot um but you'll see that if anything

886
00:52:24.240 --> 00:52:24.800
looking at the

887
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:31.280
height of the pelvis see it kind of stays the same or even dips down it's more

888
00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:33.360
of a you know spin

889
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:39.490
type motion instead of a vertical motion which ideally we're trying to blend we

890
00:52:39.490 --> 00:52:40.480
wrote it we get

891
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:46.060
a little translation early and then we get a rotation and vertical last um that

892
00:52:46.060 --> 00:52:46.960
helps kind of

893
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:52.240
stabilize some of the things uh some of the pelvis movement through impact

894
00:52:52.240 --> 00:52:53.440
while creating that flat

895
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:59.890
spot this is a little bit more shoulder driven than my liking um might have

896
00:52:59.890 --> 00:53:00.880
some trouble with

897
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:10.020
those longer clubs all right last one looking at the classic golden bear so if

898
00:53:10.020 --> 00:53:10.640
we're looking

899
00:53:10.640 --> 00:53:15.710
through this really good um you can see the dramatic difference in the leg

900
00:53:15.710 --> 00:53:17.680
action compared to the

901
00:53:17.680 --> 00:53:23.780
golfer before um so we can see good hip extension there good you know arm

902
00:53:23.780 --> 00:53:25.120
extension you don't see

903
00:53:25.120 --> 00:53:28.680
a lot of shrugging of the shoulders and the shoulder blades kind of stay back

904
00:53:28.680 --> 00:53:30.720
so um he's getting

905
00:53:30.720 --> 00:53:37.160
into more of kind of this position as opposed to going that way or even that

906
00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:39.920
way um and the hip

907
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:45.920
is going into this really good extension position instead of kind of spinning

908
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:53.280
and diving down um so he's got all the traits of kind of classic bracing arm

909
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:54.720
extension

910
00:53:54.720 --> 00:54:00.820
supination i don't have to down the line but we can see that shoulder staying

911
00:54:00.820 --> 00:54:01.040
down

912
00:54:01.040 --> 00:54:07.650
and then it doesn't stop start coming up until there really good um so

913
00:54:07.650 --> 00:54:09.360
hopefully that gives you a

914
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.740
little inspiration if there's anything in this presentation that you would like

915
00:54:12.740 --> 00:54:13.600
me to clarify

916
00:54:13.600 --> 00:54:18.830
or go over again um feel free to you know shoot me an email or send a comment

917
00:54:18.830 --> 00:54:20.160
and i'll clarify it

918
00:54:20.160 --> 00:54:26.260
for you um last video coming up we're going to talk about this finish position

919
00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:27.120
and what are some

920
00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:30.070
checks and what are some things it'll be one of the shorter presentations uh

921
00:54:30.070 --> 00:54:31.120
because there's only

922
00:54:31.120 --> 00:54:34.500
a handful of things to really look at for the finish position but there are

923
00:54:34.500 --> 00:54:35.280
some things that you

924
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:39.160
can learn that you might not pick up just by looking at the follow through

925
00:54:39.160 --> 00:54:40.480
position so stay

926
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:44.320
tuned for next time thanks again coaches we'll see you at p10